tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-92200107560678742102024-03-06T14:02:26.324-06:00Reality Based MedicineViolethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-31430231204724292732016-05-12T10:24:00.003-05:002016-05-12T10:24:48.360-05:00Belle Gibson to be Prosecuted for Cancer LiesWow. It has been a long time. I sort of doubt at this point that anyone reads the blog what with my long absence and all, but for anyone who stumbles across it again, you get a fresh post! First, let me apologize for not writing a post sooner. A project I started working on back in November that was to "last three weeks" has now turned into months. The promise of only having to "work 40 hours a week" was brutally and swiftly canned and replaced with nights, weekends and all remaining free time I once foolishly took for granted (or "granite" as we say here in Texas). This past week, we finally stamped out the fire closest to us and for the first time in months the nearest fire is being tended by a lone cowboy far, far out on the range. But anyway, back to the subject matter of this blog.<br />
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So there has finally been some good news in the world of cancer scams: Belle Gibson may be prosecuted in connection with her fraud. I cannot begin to express my joy with this development. For over a year it looked as though Belle would get away with scamming people out of their hard-earned money, and worst of all, convincing people with cancer that there was a natural cure out there for them that could work miracles. Sadly, the latter part is not what is considered the crime here, but a prosecution for breaking consumer laws is at least a start. My hope is that the fear of prosecution might just stop the next scammer (and oh how we know how many are out there).<br />
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The other really good news is that Penguin Books got a $30,000 fine for not fact-checking and publishing Belle's (very obvious) lies about curing her cancer naturally. To me, this is a very important step in protecting people with cancer. By publishing those claims, Penguin Books gave a lot of legitimacy to Belle's scam. Penguin is a publishing house with a good reputation, and that reputation naturally validates lies that might otherwise be met with skepticism. Indeed, I do not think that the fine of $30,000 was high enough. It should be ten times that. It ought to be punitive. At any rate, I see all this as a remarkable first step towards finally holding all these people accountable for their actions. No doubt every publishing house in the world got a memo from legal on this. <br />
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I cannot help but think that everyone who came here and supported the blog and <b>demanded the truth</b> from Belle played an important role in all this. We refused to back down even when Belle played her "poor me" game. As we have seen subsequently, when truly cornered, no one who makes these "remarkable" claims ever offers any proof whatsoever that what they are saying is true. All Penguin, Cosmopolitan, numerous Australian newspapers, and Apple had to do was ask for Belle to prove her claims. I hope now that these entities can see how dangerous it is for them to loan their reputations and legitimacy to someone like Belle. It is incredibly harmful to the health of cancer patients and to the pocketbooks of everyone else. The next time you see one of these stories in a publication with a solid reputation, write to them and demand to see the proof. Belle only got as far as she did because she had a lot of enablers <i>who should have known better</i>. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-22065097026817303302015-08-30T13:56:00.000-05:002015-08-30T13:56:36.871-05:00Changes to Commenting I had to change the settings so that every comment now requires a word verification. I know it's annoying, but this blog gets a lot of spam from woo-peddlers.Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com20tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-53379989054996057972015-08-22T11:08:00.000-05:002015-08-22T11:08:23.254-05:00Even If Gerson Works The Way They Say It Works, It Still Doesn't WorkHow many times have we seen the Gerson people claim that the reason Gerson failed was because the patient did something wrong? It's a running theme with them. If a cancer patient dies after doing Gerson it is because they most certainly did something wrong somewhere along the line. Well how could they not? How could they not miss one of 3,650 totally pleasant coffee enemas (five a day for two years)? Did the patient once sleep in and not do their morning enema? Of course. Did the patient once cave after day after day of juice and salt-free boiled potatoes and grab a cheeseburger? Yup. Every single person doing the Gerson protocol will mess up at least once in two years, and they probably "fail" way more than once, and that is what the Gerson people count on. They have developed a protocol that is essentially impossible for people who are living their lives in the real world to follow, and then they use that fact to weasel out of ever being responsible for the failure themselves. Thus, I submit that even if Gerson therapy actually did work, it would only ever be purely theoretical, because human beings simply cannot follow such a rigid regime for two years. I am looking forward to seeing the film <a href="https://www.facebook.com/thefoodcurefilm" target="_blank">The Food Cure</a> simply because I highly suspect there will be lots of fantastic quotes where Gerson staffers go on and on about how you have to follow the regime perfectly or else it won't work and you will die from cancer and it will be <i>all your fault </i>(because hey, you're lazy and you have low character and not enough motivation and perseverance to save your own life). Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com52tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-32372007529579918082015-07-02T18:45:00.000-05:002015-07-02T18:45:03.185-05:00Belle Gibson Catch-UpWell, I have finally been able to catch up a bit on the Belle Gibson saga. The 60 Minutes interview was naturally incredibly awkward, but I was pleased to see that the journalist conducting the interview asked her some straight-forward questions and refused to accept b.s. answers. This is what all journalists should have done right from the start, and I hope that this is learning lesson for all those in the media about credulous reporting of miracle cancer cures. Naturally, Belle Gibson is still lying and I am convinced she simply does not have the character to be a truthful and honest person. I am also pleased to see that Belle Gibson will finally face some real consequences of her lies in the Australian courts. <br />
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One final thought: to all the journalists out there who still might believe that Belle was simply misled by some quack doctors, go and see if there is a correlation between Belle's announcement of her cancer spreading to her kidneys, spleen and uterus and app sales in the following days. I bet you will find a big one. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com36tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-14087475005405550482015-06-02T20:19:00.001-05:002015-06-02T21:03:27.319-05:00What's the Deal with Louise Hay?Does anyone have much insight into this woman? She is the guru of the lie that positive thinking cures cancer, yet I can find no proof that she ever even had cancer. I follow a few people who blog about their natural cancer cures and it is apparent to me that most of them are heavily influenced by this woman's message. Jessica Ainscough was clearly among them. It is absolutely heartbreaking to watch these poor people harp on about how they just need to be more positive and then their cancer will go away. <br />
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My idea is to compile as much as we can about the holes in her story and then publicly take her to task. She has gotten quite rich off the suffering of others, and it is about time she proved her claim that she actually had cancer which she cured with the power of the mind. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com55tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-68299828198381519322015-05-15T20:43:00.001-05:002015-05-15T20:43:33.805-05:00A Quick UpdateHey All!<br />
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Just a quick update over here. I will be working on the weekdays from 8 to 8 and on the weekends from 8 to 6 for the next couple of months. I have not left you, but I am not sure if I will have any new content for a while (though I will try). I like that people can come here and discuss many of these issues, so if anyone wants to write a guest post, I would be glad to have it! You can email it to me at violetrealitybased@gmail.com. It does not have to be some profound piece of journalism or anything; it just needs to be something to get the conversation going. <br />
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I came across this in the FAQ section of the <a href="http://gersontreatment.com/" target="_blank">Northern Baja Healing Center</a>, which offers Gerson protocol though it is not <b>the</b> Gerson center in Mexico. Well, I think that this speaks for itself so I do not have much to say, but I want to correct one or two things here. Children are not an "entity of the state". They can sometimes be made wards of the court if they are being neglected, and medical neglect would fall under this. Also, it is not "illegal" to treat cancer with nothing but chemo, radiation, and surgery. What is illegal is having a person who is <a href="http://gersontreatment.com/our-founder/" target="_blank">not a real doctor</a> offering non-evidence-based quackery as "the cure" for cancer. That is what is illegal. Think about the message this man is sending for a minute. A child diagnosed with leukemia who gets conventional treatment has an incredibly high chance of being cured of their cancer and living a normal lifespan. A child with this same illness who goes to one of these clinics instead <b>will</b> die of their cancer. Naturally there are quite a lot of people out there who are desperate to protect a child from this fate, and it is incredibly disturbing to me that this man offers advice on how to circumvent this. A child has no ability to make decisions about his or her medical care because most of it is outside their understanding. A child often has a limited concept of the permanence of death. A child has a difficult time understanding that going through something incredibly unpleasant now will reap great rewards for the future. It is for all these reasons that adults must make medical decisions of the child's behalf. If a child with a treatable cancer gets taken to this place, he or she is going to die of their cancer. This isn't "another option" or an "alternative"; it's a death sentence. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com60tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-86786992856961102082015-05-05T20:20:00.001-05:002015-05-05T20:29:19.330-05:00The Sad Case of Samantha BeavenToday in the news there was a story about a<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3068745/Tragedy-young-mother-28-dies-cervical-cancer-symptoms-blamed-pregnant.html" target="_blank"> young mother of two who died of cervical cancer</a> at the age of 29. That right there would have been a very sad thing indeed, but what makes this story doubly so tragic is that Samantha Beaven was lied to by a promoter of fantasy-based medicine and before her untimely death <a href="http://www.samanthabeaven.com/" target="_blank">she wasted eight weeks and 60,000 GBP</a> at a fantasy-based medicine "clinic" in Mexico, far from her native England. Samantha's case is incredibly heart-breaking. She had two young daughters to look after, and when she was pregnant with her second child, she noticed unusual symptoms like cramping and bleeding. Despite eight different doctor's visits over this, she was assured that it was normal and related to her pregnancy. Having been pregnant already once before, Samantha knew that something was not right, and she was diagnosed cervical cancer soon after she gave birth at 26 weeks. She underwent chemo and radiation, which seemed to work but the cancer was later found to have spread to her lungs. This case is most definitely a failure of reality-based medicine, or rather of the human beings who practice it. I never argue that conventional medicine is perfect, and it most certainly has its fair-share of failures. It is not clear how long Samantha was having these undiagnosed symptoms, but if they started during pregnancy, then she must have been having them for around six months or so. It is always so devastating to see something like cancer misdiagnosed for this long. For a disease like cervical cancer that is quite treatable if caught early, it is especially devastating. Could Samantha have been saved by conventional medicine if the first doctor had run some very simple tests? Would she had turned to quackery if she had not gotten the blow-off from so many medical professionals? <br />
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Though the details are not there, at some point Samantha decided to go to Mexico to undergo a cancer treatment called hyperthermia therapy. Hyperthermia, apparently <a href="http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/treatmenttypes/hyperthermia" target="_blank">can be used to help treat some cancers</a>, but as of yet is largely an <a href="http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/manualhealingandphysicaltouch/heat-therapy" target="_blank">experimental therapy</a> and results are mixed as to its efficacy. What we do know is that it not the cure for cancer. At any rate, it can potentially be very dangerous and so it should only be administered by a highly-trained doctor who knows what she is doing. This is one of those "therapies" which might have some potential, but which can quickly morph into quackery if used in a way (whole body) and on patients who can no longer receive any benefit from the treatment. To me, these are the most dangerous quack therapies out there. They appeal to people who are intelligent and educated because they actually do have some science to back them up. Unfortunately this does not translate to working a miracle on every person with cancer, no matter the type or stage. Though not mentioned in any article, this treatment was ostensibly not offered to Samantha by any of her doctors in the UK, likely because they knew it would bring her no benefit. To pay for it, Samantha sold her possessions and moved into a cheaper house. Her six-year-old daughter even sold her toys on Ebay. The family started a fundraiser so that it might raise the nearly 60,000 quid necessary to pay for the "treatment" in Mexico. In the end, it did not work and Samantha returned in much worse shape than before and died within days of an infection, one of the possible <a href="http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/treatmenttypes/hyperthermia" target="_blank">side effects of hyperthermia</a>. <br />
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So what was the harm here? After all, so many people who promote fantasy-based medicine claim that if someone is already terminal, then there is no harm in trying an alternative. Well, let's see. Samantha left her two young children for eight weeks while she went halfway across the world to pursue a treatment which would not work. Since this treatment involves raising the temperature of the body, I am going to have to assume that the treatment itself was unpleasant. In those eight weeks she could have been home getting palliation. Her daughters could have formed a few more good memories with their mother. There could have been a few more moments of laughter, of reading stories before bed, of playing games, and going to the park. They will never have the option to do any of those things with their mother ever again. That was stolen from them by the people at the "clinic" in Mexico. And what about the money she raised? Well, in the grander scheme things money is not particularly important, but every mother I know with small children would take a lot of comfort in leaving them some money before she died. Could this <a href="http://www.kapipal.com/fightforlifeandliving" target="_blank">60,000 GBP</a> have been put in a trust to help the girls through university when the time came? Well, now it is lining the pockets of some scammer in Mexico. He or she won't be giving it back or anything. <br />
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Samantha is a perfect example of someone at their most desperate and most vulnerable. Samantha did not just <b>want</b> to live; she <b>needed</b> to live. She had small children to raise who needed their mother. I have no doubt she was willing to do whatever it took to give herself a chance at life. Unfortunately she was terminally ill with cancer and there were not any treatments left for her. The family claims that it was not the cancer which claimed her life, but a lung infection, thus promoting the idea that this treatment would have worked for her. This sounds all too familiar to anyone who has followed what happens in these Mexican "cancer clinics". These places are not set up to treat disease. A lung infection will go untreated. If you're in Tijuana and you get really sick, then the staff <a href="http://www.yourdoctorsorders.com/2013/03/gerson-nutritional-therapy-scams-and-pseudoscience/" target="_blank">might drive you across the border, drop you at a fast food restaurant, call 911 and bolt.</a> Otherwise, you get put back on a plane home and your doctor there is left to clean up the mess the quack in Mexico made. If you develop a complication of any of these cancer "treatments" at a Mexican clinic, you will not get treatment for it. It's a sweet little scam for them. They get to claim that their "treatment" would have worked had you not gotten that nasty little infection, and the hospital in San Diego is left to pick up the pieces. <br />
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I want to make something very clear here: Samantha and her family are 100% the victims in this case. They were at their most vulnerable and most desperate, and at a time when they had lost all hope, someone came along and promised to be their savoir. If they had any skepticism or doubt, then the salesperson at the "clinic" would naturally have assured them that there was science to back this up and that it was only not used in countries like the US and the UK because of some conspiracy by big medicine to suppress "the cure" for cancer. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com36tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-19209838863225861272015-04-30T07:41:00.000-05:002015-04-30T07:41:40.324-05:00Candice-Marie Fox Claims She Went to Police<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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There is no crime in going to a Facebook page which was created <i>for the sole purposes of engaging the public</i> and posting comments. There has not been a single post there which was criminal in nature, and Candice-Marie Fox can ban people and delete comments if she does not like it (which she does). Despite what Candice-Marie Fox thinks, criticizing someone is not a crime. She has unilaterally chosen to make herself a public figure, and now she is getting a public critique. If she does not like it, then she can return to being a private figure. I get that she is very disappointed in how this has all gone down. I am sure that when she was fantasizing about all this, that she had a completely different picture in her head as to what the public's reaction was going to be. Well, this is the reality; there are a great many people out there right now who are sick of people like Candice spreading deadly misinformation to cancer patients and we are going to make our displeasure known. That is not a crime and it is insulting of her to insinuate such. <br />
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Oh, and Candice, why don't you post a copy of the police report? It seems only fair that everyone know which crime it is they are being investigated for. I am sure you will post it ASAP. After all, you are good, decent person full of love and light. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com132tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-58688527694869993122015-04-28T22:06:00.002-05:002015-04-28T22:06:47.350-05:00A Young Woman with Cancer Responds to Belle's Recent InterviewAn open letter to Belle Gibson.<br />
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Belle –<br />
My name is Allie. I am 21, and I have endometrial cancer which is incredibly rare for somebody my age. I have only been diagnosed recently but have been suffering with crippling, debilitating pain and blood loss for months. I realise that there are other cancer patients and survivors who have suffered longer (or more) who might be more qualified to write this but I need to get a few things off my chest.<br />
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Before I was diagnosed, I bought your app. I followed you on Instagram. I believed in the positivity and wholeness that you promoted. I felt empathy for you, and while I could never quite bring myself to believe in curing a sickness with a specific diet I had respect for what you were doing. In some ways, I looked up to you – you were a strong woman overcoming odds and making a name for yourself while battling a terrible illness. And I’m sure I wasn’t the only one - I was told by another sufferer that when you posted that your cancer had spread to your liver, uterus, spleen and brain they sat on their bed and cried for you. But at the same time, wondering how you managed to look so good so sick while she was a “bald, feverish, yellow mess”. Which takes us forward a few months, where your web of lies begins fall apart. (As were most people) I was shocked and somehow personally offended because I believed in you and supported you. The fact that you could so blatantly lie about something that has affected so many people is disgusting to me, but even worse is the fact that you capitalised on it. THAT is unforgivable.<br />
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That then leads me to your most recent interview. Was there even an apology in there, or was it just you playing the victim? I’m stuck on the fact that you first of all used your childhood as an excuse for your actions. Everybody reacts to things differently, but as somebody who lost their sister (to cancer) at a young age and their dad to a heart attack all before I reached high school I can tell you that it is absolutely not an excuse for your abhorrent actions. Again, in the next few paragraphs you play the victim – of course the public backlash has been horrible, what did you expect? It’s as though you have no grasp of what you’ve done. You still expect a level of respect? What exactly have you done to deserve that? I can’t bring myself to respect somebody that has created a community based on a lie, and made thousands of dollars from that same lie.<br />
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Not to mention the cancer patients that would have followed your lead thinking they themselves could cure their cancer. This is the worst part of it all – that these people believed in you, and there is a chance some of them turned away from traditional methods and instead followed your pseudo-science. In the time since I have been diagnosed, I have been bombarded with messages recommending certain diets to “cure” my cancer or that if I do two coffee enemas a day it will fix me. These are all messages that you helped to perpetuate with your Instagram, your lies and your entire social media existence. And the fact that you had the nerve to do that when you never had to sit in a doctor’s office and hear the words “you have cancer” is something beyond disgusting. You don’t know how scary it is to hear those words, or hear that you will become infertile at 21, or have to undergo chemotherapy.<br />
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The public hasn’t received a proper apology from you yet, and until they do I’m certain you won’t receive the respect you so think you deserve. To prey on vulnerable people who are desperate for hope, or a cure is the lowest of low and I’m actually astonished at the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any legal ramifications so far.<br />
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But really, all I feel in this situation is sadness. Sadness that you are so deluded, sadness that you can’t see how badly your actions have affected people all around the world and mainly sadness for those people that believed in you. I hope that one day you can begin to recognize how harmful your actions were (and continue to be) and that you accept accountability, own responsibility and offer the people you have affected a real apology – not one sandwiched between cries for more sympathy.<br />
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Regards,<br />
Allie Garland<br />
<br />Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-11367358640952630172015-04-25T23:00:00.001-05:002015-04-25T23:00:22.673-05:00Does Jessica Tancred of The Today Show Fact Check?Well, I simply must ask because she produced a segment about Candice-Marie Fox where she very baldly reported that Candice-Marie cured her terminal (given five years to live) cancer using pineapples. You can find the segment <a href="http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/today/videos/4196710706001/" target="_blank">here</a>. This is an incredibly serious thing to report on without confirming if it is indeed true. So, Jessica Tancred, what sort of proof did Candice-Marie Fox offer you to back up her story? Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com81tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-44386480043459482542015-04-17T14:24:00.001-05:002015-04-17T14:26:49.410-05:00Social Media Lies and the Case of Britt McHenryOkay, so Britt McHenry is a not a wellness blogger. If you're like me, then you have probably never even heard of her. In fact, the only reason I know about her is because she had an <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3042761/Maybe-missing-teeth-job-Glamorous-ESPN-reporter-suspended-atrocious-verbal-attack-parking-lot-attendant-caught-camera.html" target="_blank">epic meltdown at a tow yard</a> and the whole thing was caught on camera. She is a sports reporter for ESPN, and like all people with a career on television, she has a strong social media presence. She has a <a href="http://brittmchenry.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">sweet blog</a> where she implores women to place intelligence above looks. Indeed, she is so supportive of this notion that she bravely posts of photo of herself without (gasp!) make-up. She rails against sexism and opines that it is no wonder that there is still such an issue with gender equality when women are expected to sexually debase themselves in order to sell cheeseburgers. Her blog also has the usual stuff about loving yourself, living in the moment, and being positive. Why this Britt woman seems like such a great lady! What a wonderful way to use her fame to inspire other women to be better people. There are also some really lovely pictures of her smiling authentically and posing with people who seem delighted to be in her presence. She must be super! All young women should go to her for inspiration. I mean, she is just such a wonderful human being! It is obvious from the stuff she puts on her blog that she is! <br />
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Well, it turns out that <i>in reality</i>, and not in the <i>fantasy that is social media</i>, Britt McHenry does not feel that way at all. She is actually looksist, elitist, and mean. She is a nasty person who looks down on other people, especially fat women who work in blue-collar jobs. She cusses out strangers, and flips the bird when she gets upset. And it was all caught on camera.<br />
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At the tow yard, she blasts the woman working there for "having no education, no skill set," telling her that being at that place "makes her skin crawl" and reminding the woman that "I have a brain and you don't." The other woman cannot be seen, but ostensibly she does not have Hollywood veneers like Britt, who goes on to conclude that "maybe if [she] were missing some teeth" that they would hire her to work there. But that is not enough for her, she further goes on to tell the attendant, "I'm on television and you're in a f**king trailer, honey." Never fear though, for Britt has a final bit of advice for the woman so that she can come closer to being as fantastic as Britt. "Lose some weight, baby girl," she admonishes, before stomping off. On her final exit from the tow yard, she flips off the camera as she leaves. <br />
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Now I get it. Having your car towed sucks. It is a big hassle and you essentially feel held hostage by the tow company until you pay to get your car out. You probably missed appointments, and worst of all your transportation has been taken from you. Maybe you felt that you had parked legally and so you're feeling like the whole thing is a massive injustice on top of it all. Perhaps you get a little snippy with the people working there. Sure, we all lose our cool sometimes. But what Britt did went far beyond just "losing her cool." Would any of you talk to another person like this, no matter how stressful the situation? I doubt it. You might utter an uncalled for "goddamnit" or perhaps you might inform the person working there that you find the fine too high, or that you had a lot of stuff to do that day, but would you insult their appearance, their job and the conditions of their workplace? <b>Only a person who goes about her life thinking that way would do that.</b> Britt, it turns out, has a very negative and sad mind. Her outlook on life is actually snobbish and mean. Her "sweet" look is just a cover for a person who throws the word "f**k" at a perfect stranger and then fat-shames her so that she can regain the upper hand. She is quite simply, just not a very good person. <br />
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I use this case to illustrate the problem with social media and how is it easy for a person to manipulate their image. This is the biggest problem with the current social media wellness bloggers. Their image is created entirely through social media, and likely has very little connection to reality. At least Britt McHenry just asks athletes what it took to win the game; wellness bloggers tell people how to cure cancer. <br />
<br />Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com48tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-50639627540363469802015-04-15T11:48:00.001-05:002015-04-15T11:48:53.871-05:00Jess Ainscough, Belle Gibson and the New Purity Movement: How Nutritionism and Pseudoscience Overtook the Fundamentalist Focus on Bodily Integrity and Acceptable Femininity<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">*This is a guest post by Rebecca who has her own blog called <a href="http://theunwholesome.com/" target="_blank">the unwholesome</a>. If you don't read it yet, you should. </span><br />
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During George W Bush's reign I hate-read, in earnest, the numerous accounts of the decidedly-American purity movement by journalists, ex-devotees and critics. The stories of father-daughter '<a href="http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1822906,00.html" target="_blank">purity balls</a>', purity rings and an unnerving focus on female sexual purity infiltrated and shaped the arse-end of Bush's legacy and in part, I believe, contributed to the demise of dominionist domination in the American political arena.<br />
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In Australia, its take-off was far less assured: despite the popularity of Hillsong and all her hideous little offspring, sexual purity was less of a big deal here than abroad. Our religion has always been a little more mainline, our big preachers less televised, their political influence (Toned Abs notwithstanding) positively piss-weak in comparison.<br />
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This isn't to say that undercurrents of misogyny and calvinistic 'just-world' thinking don't exist here: to wit, c<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-priest-apologises-for-derogatory-comments-about-jill-meagher-20150327-1m9q0i.html" target="_blank">omments</a> by clergy that Jill Meagher may not have been murdered had she not been out so late at night are mealy-mouthed nods to the notion that female sexuality is a corruptible, dangerous force, turning even the most mild-mannered of repeat parole breachers and serial sadists into murderers. However, the backlash this received prompted the diocese to apologise publicly for the statements - an idea unthinkable had it been Pat Robertson or James Dobson commenting.<br />
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Our form of asceticism is thus not of the dancing and drinking variety: more, it is of the dietary abstinence kind. Its proponents are not bland-faced, plainly dressed and dour of disposition, but fashionable, charismatic and able to sell wholesale the notion that our bodies are only moments away from total corruption and ruin lest we so much as think of a hot chip sanga made on white bread.<br />
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My first introduction to Jess Ainscough - the regrettably deceased and even more regrettably influential 'Wellness Warrior' blogger - came in 2013 thanks to <a href="http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/jess-ainscough-claims-8216organic8217-cafe-misled-with-veggie-burger/story-fn93ypt9-1226668814935" target="_blank">her tantrum against a Byron Bay cafe</a> who dared serve her a burger that may or may not have been fully organic. Ainscough, undergoing the thoroughly discredited, dangerous, fraudulent cancer 'treatment' as espoused by the Gerson Clinic (seemingly only run in Mexico and Hungary - so legitimate right now) said of the incident:<br />
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<i>I felt dirty. I felt like I needed to give my insides about 10 showers. I was so shocked that I just hung up the phone, but I wish I’d told her that her since her “cancer fighting” burger contains pesticides it is actually cancer causing.</i><br />
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This is a reasonably hyperbolic approach. There are few who practice evidence-based medicine who would be at all worried about a potentially unwashed bit of cos, and probably more who would be happy if people ate just one meat-free, fat-free meal in between bong-binges and all night drinks on their Byron holiday. The way Ainscough carried on, however, you'd have thought Manna Haven Cafe had offered her an evening of unprotected bliss with a FIFO miner who had a penchant for homemade tattoos and who exclusively ate imported frozen berries. The thought that one meal is unlikely to undo multiple years of disciplined neurotic eating is equally unlikely as it is uninspiring: just like religious faith imperilled by reading <i>Harry Potter</i>, a form of treatment can hardly be very good or worth keeping up if it can be undone by one lousy vegan burger. More than anything the experience made me feel sympathetic for Ainscough: imagine the thing that is jeopardising your health is one lame, meat-free, fat-free, fun-free burger. And imagine one's last years of life spent hovering over an enema bucket while you slavishly prepare a bloody juice every hour every day of your life, never enjoying the simple pleasures of nutella sandwiches with a perfect bread:nutella ratio of 40:60, or sipping a coldie on one's front deck after a blistering party, or a Sunday afternoon spent with builder's tea, scotch fingers and a similarly introverted friend.<br />
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More detrimental than a regimented adherence to organic food, or paleo, or macrobiotics, or raw veganism, or any other highly restricted diet is a fervent rejection of conventional, evidence-based medicine. Such as with nutritionism, it shares extreme chemophobia and a confusing approach to bodily purity which sees 'unnatural' interventions such as surgery, chemotherapy, controlled antibiotic use, vaccines and anaesthesia as sullying and toxic.<br />
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As an approach it bears numerous similarities to the sexual abstinence movement: it is focussed on femininity and women, with numerous appeals to natural fertility, sexual desirability and some fallacious exhortations that we 'know our bodies better than any doctor' and to 'make our own choices and do our own research'. Practitioners are predominantly not evidence-based: Cyndi O'Meara, anti-vaccination nutritionist and friend of the harbinger of epidemic doom Meryl Dorey, brags about having <a href="http://www.movenourishbelieve.com/interviews/sporty-sister-of-the-week-cyndi-omeara/" target="_blank">"never taken an antibiotic, painkiller or any other form of medication in her entire life"</a> - as though this qualifies her to offer health advice. It is a classic naturalistic fallacy: the idea that somehow, these anachronistic refugees of a wholesome, organic Arcadia are here to save us is as offensive as it is silly. Arsenic is natural. Asbestos is natural. Great white sharks and funnel-web spiders are natural - and they are obviously not good for us.<br />
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Conventional medical treatment - especially chemotherapy - is always framed by the wellness movement as 'burning, slashing and poisoning', and indeed, this is true. There is good reason why, as treatment, it is limited to cancer, or hepatitis C, or ulcerative collitis: it is because it is so efficacious and destructive to cancer cells that it can do damage to other non-cancerous cells, and for this reason it is strictly administered and monitored. For some forms of cancer, patients are advised to avoid unprotected sex with their partners, so teratogenic are their treatments, and many women become infertile as a result of chemotherapy or surgery. It is not hard to see a bald cancer patient, or one with extremely photophobic skin and eyes (as my own mother suffered from when receiving cancer treatment) and to see poisoning and corruption at work. It is a very fire and brimstone kind of threat: go natural, or spend eternity in the circle of hell set aside for ball-busters, single mothers and the criminally unsexy.<br />
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It is this fear of lost femininity - and the fertility, beauty and wholeness which stand as proxies for traditional, conservative femininity - that pseudoscientific hacks play at, and it is not a huge stretch to point out that their view on femininity and its proxies of conventional heterosexist allure and maternal instincts as being so natural and ingrained is one that is inherently problematic to feminist discourse and the notion of performed gender. It is also not a huge stretch to argue that an essentialist, naturalistic ideal of conservative femininity - combined with a disdain for synthetic hormones and surgical intervention - is inherently transphobic and exclusive. (The wellness movement, with its recommendation for expensive organic food and for unverified therapies that cost more than a bulk billing GP appointment, is already exclusive economically, needless to say.)<br />
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Belle Gibson did it particularly well in her own fraudulent tirade against evidence-based medicine. <a href="http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/belle-gibson-vaccination/" target="_blank">She railed against the government for 'giving her cancer' through the Gardasil injection</a>, and the likeness to a predatory, unthinking rapist is drawn. The 'rape' analogy is especially <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/09/30/anti-vaccine-not-pro-safe-vaccine-vaccination-described-as-rape/" target="_blank">frequently drawn in anti-vaccination circles</a> surrounding consent, and as a feminist who is particularly cognisant of rape culture and issues with consent (especially with young people and children) it is concerning and insulting to the medical community and to all victims of sexual assault and abuse. The frequent calling-cry of antivaccine proponents or opponents of chemotherapy is to beware the toxins: a call which is hugely ignorant pharmacologically, yet devastating in playing into the fears of a largely ignorant community who are not scientifically literate while being very afraid.<br />
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Gibson was an especially interesting case: at times, her message was unpalatable (her twitter posts about Gardasil were far less likely to be shared than her <a href="http://getoffmyinternets.net/whole-pantry-empire-begins-to-crumble/comment-page-3/" target="_blank">pilfered</a> 'bliss ball' recipes). However, when she was on-message was when she was at her best: beautiful, dignified, holding her equally photogenic son aloft in photography as if to highlight her feminine credentials. She managed to be the perfect amalgamation of the Victorian era 'angel of the house' ideal - beautiful, resigned, devotedly maternal, pure - and the twenty-first century wellness pin-up - wealthy, photogenic, business-savvy, zen. That she was 'suffering' with her cancer was all the more symbolic; it provided a cheap, accessible form of empathy to her readers, and her 'survival' literally elevated her to miracle-status. She was in every way the Mother Theresa of the movement: both in her superficial facade of kindness and charity, and in her more real apathy to the suffering of those in her care, and in her financial avarice and ethical disinterest in where the money came from, be it from deposed Romanian dictator or desperate Instagram fans. <a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2003/10/mommie_dearest.html" target="_blank">Hitchens surely would have had a field day with her.</a><br />
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The pseudoscientific wellness community, despite invoking messages of 'free choice' and escaping from the patriarchy of western medicine, is decidedly antifeminist in its goals and semiotics. Feminism - especially second and third wave feminism - has long since railed against prevailing notions of women being the gatekeepers of sexual purity and community morality, or the idea that women and girls are forever sullied because of sexual contact. In particular, third-wave and postcolonial feminism has done much to challenge notions of rape victims being forever 'damaged' or devalued by their experiences, and has long since campaigned for the equal rights of women globally to receive quality healthcare in the form of contraceptive cover and family planning, vaccines and treatment of childbirth complications like fistulas with surgery and antibiotic treatment. These are all things that are making a real difference in the lives of women globally: lifespans are improving, risks of maternal and childhood mortality are plummeting, and economic and educational opportunities are possible all because of treatments empirically proven to work - unlike green smoothies and acupuncture, which might make people who can afford them feel 'more connected with their true selves'. And like the fight against conventional medicine in Australia, so too are pseudoscientific beliefs predicated on irrational notions being used to <a href="http://denyingaids.blogspot.com/2009/06/aids-denial-lethal-delusion.html" target="_blank">fight AIDS treatment in Ghana and South Africa</a>, and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/world/asia/taliban-block-vaccinations-in-pakistan.html" target="_blank">vaccine programs in Pakistan</a>. These aims too are achieved by manipulating and abusing operant gender discourses about traditional femininity, and made even more extreme and deadly by the vehemence with which this femininity is endorsed and enforced upon women globally.<br />
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And, in the end, it is all for nought: Ainscough's inevitable death was met with <a href="https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-gerson-protocol-and-the-death-of-jess-ainscough/" target="_blank">callous indifference</a> from the Gerson Clinic responsible for her early death (fobbing off critics with a heartless "she stopped following us three years ago, but like, totes sad, babes"), and from <a href="https://rosaliehilleman.wordpress.com/2015/03/08/fan-mail-from-the-wellness-world/" target="_blank">woo pedlars</a> quick to claim that had only she lived a better life sooner, or been even more adherent to Gerson's dietary restrictions, or been more positive, she might have survived. People die every day of cancer - even if the treatment is evidence-based. But the difference between real doctors and the charlatans is the phrasing. With evidence based practitioners, the cancer killed the patient, or the treatment failed. I am yet to see a publically renowned, media-prominent doctor berating or criticising a patient for not being positive enough, or for not attracting the right energy, or for not eating enough organic food. The wellness crowd do. The wellness crowd say illness is a personal moral failure: a manifestation of negativity, poor choices and a failure to keep oneself pure.<br />
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There is little to distinguish the wellness industry from the cold, harsh doctrine that we are all born fallen and that our demise is deserved of Calvinist theology. There is no light, or kindness, or healing, or warmth. It is boldly antifeminist, anti-humanist, and anti-evidence. And just as feminism rejects the idea that a body is degraded or unworthy due to sexual impurity, so too must it fight the notion that we are undeserving, unwholesome or less-than because we choose medicine as our medicine, or dare to imbibe in the less-than organic. To conclude, I don't believe Jess Ainscough operated under nefarious intent. (The same cannot be said of Gibson, who lies like a lying liar who lies.) Like most in the industry, she found a medium which was profitable, connected her with an audience of millions, and which relied on the trends of the time in terms of conservative self-interest, narcissistic arrogance and special snowflake syndrome. Unlike the others, she sold a fatal bill of goods, and those who promoted her uncritically, even in the absence of evidence or logic or the actual fear that justified Ainscough's actions to some degree, deserve to be brought into the spotlight and challenged for their culpability in spreading this message.Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com83tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-61253531935978659152015-04-14T11:34:00.000-05:002015-04-14T13:10:33.559-05:00My Response to Candice's Daily Mail Article <b>'I didn't even know about this Belle Gibson lady,' she said. 'I don't know whether she did have cancer or what.'</b><br />
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Well, you have had two weeks now to find out who she is and what she did. It is no longer an excuse that you did not know. Go look it up. <br />
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<b>'All I know is, she's not me, I'm not her. </b><b>My story is so far removed from anybody else's story because it's mine. </b><b>It's unique, and it's exactly how it happened. So why am I not allowed to share that?' </b><br />
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You can share anything you want. Neither I nor anyone else can stop you. What we can do is be critical of you and your claims. I have zero ability to stop you from writing something and putting it up on the internet. I have no idea how you got something so ridiculous into your head.<br />
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<b>'Why am I not allowed to help people heal? I'm not making money out of this, I'm not trying to hurt anyone.'</b><br />
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You’re not a doctor and you have zero qualifications to “help people heal”. I believe you that you are not currently making money off this, but it seems fairly obvious that is your goal. You may not be <i>trying</i> to hurt anyone, but that does not mean that you aren’t hurting people. If people follow your lead and ditch real medical care for the magical pineapple diet, then you’re hurting people. <br />
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<b>'I'm not a fraud and I'm not a fake'.</b><br />
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Actually I believe you. I think you are quite sincere. You sincerely believe that this diet will help people. What I do not believe is that you are being completely truthful. Now, it seems fairly clear to me that you had and have a very limited understanding of what was happening when you were getting treatment for your cancer, so perhaps that is where all your misunderstanding stems from. <br />
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<b>'It just seems they've got this massive agenda to break down my story.'</b><br />
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Yep.<br />
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<b>'<i>I know</i> I can sleep at night and <i>in my heart</i> I am doing what <i>I know </i>to be right.'</b><br />
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Three indicators of deception in that one sentence alone. <br />
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<b>'I haven't changed anything, I haven't deleted anything.'</b><br />
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Yes you did. The deleted content is here on this blog, and I have more of it I can post at any time. <br />
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<b>'It really did change the way I f***ing lived'.</b><br />
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I believe that. I do not think anyone doubted that. <br />
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Of note in this entire article is that Candice-Marie Fox chooses not to correct the serious issues the previous article got wrong. She does not once say here that she never had stage 4 cancer, cancer in her liver, or that Mark Simon is not an oncologist. She has the perfect forum to make these critical corrections, and of course she does not do so. <br />
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Finally, is she going to post her medical records, or will it be a report (on advice of counsel), because at this point I am very, very confused as to what her actual promise is.<br />
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<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3037872/I-m-not-Belle-Gibson-s-not-glamorous-former-model-claimed-eating-vast-amounts-PINEAPPLES-cured-cancer-hits-social-media-sceptics.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3037872/I-m-not-Belle-Gibson-s-not-glamorous-former-model-claimed-eating-vast-amounts-PINEAPPLES-cured-cancer-hits-social-media-sceptics.html</a><br />
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Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com58tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-78765114300747703032015-04-13T17:39:00.002-05:002015-04-13T17:39:39.907-05:00A Thyroid Cancer Survivor Questions Candice's Story <div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.3800000000000001; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
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<a href="http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/29/woman-says-she-beat-cancer-by-ditching-her-husband-and-eating-pineapples-5126117/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/29/woman-says-she-beat-cancer-by-ditching-her-husband-and-eating-pineapples-5126117/</span></a></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The biggest claim of them all is her terminal diagnosis and being given 5 years to live</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. I am not sure if she actually believes that herself or exaggerated her claims to get attention and embellish her money-earning cancer story. This is what I want to explore the most. Please keep in mind that I am not a doctor, just a patient myself who remembers the process of treatment well. If a medical specialist reads this, please add your perspective. Also, because I am not from an English speaking country, I constantly call thyroglobulin TGB, because that is how we abbreviate it. In English documentation it is usually abbreviated as Tg.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">1.5 hours long interview with Candice for Statera podcast, kindly transcribed by another reader Ella on this very blog and published in series “Candice on cancer”</span></div>
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<a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This far she has mentioned 2 instances, in which she was given a grim prognosis. Since her diagnostics and treatment happened in two different locations with different level of diagnostics, I have divided the story in 2 phases. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Before we go any further, I want to specify papillary thyroid cancer staging, because that is important in the context of her claims.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Papillary or follicular (differentiated) thyroid cancer in patients younger than 45 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">• Younger people have a low likelihood of dying from differentiated (papillary or follicular) thyroid cancer. The TNM stage groupings for these cancers take this fact into account. So, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">all people younger than 45 years with these cancers are stage I if they have no distant spread and stage II if they have distant spread.</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">• Stage I (any T, any N, M0): The tumor can be any size (any T) and may or may not have spread to nearby lymph nodes (any N). It has not spread to distant sites (M0).</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">• Stage II (any T, any N, M1): The tumor can be any size (any T) and may or may not have spread to nearby lymph nodes (any N). It has spread to distant sites (M1).</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The moment she noticed something was wrong was this:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">(Source is a post from a now deleted FB group page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info)</span></div>
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<a href="http://realitybasedmedicine.blogspot.com/2015/04/candice-maries-statera-podcast.html" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://realitybasedmedicine.blogspot.com/2015/04/candice-maries-statera-podcast.html</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">: in the first part of the transcribed podcast she says she got her lump checked in a local hospital in a remote area in Karratha, Pilbara. She had neck ultrasound, lumpectomy for the lump above her right collarbone as well as fine-needle biopsy of neck lymph nodes and possibly other, unspecified tests. Then she waits for the biopsy/histology results. It takes some time, she runs out of patience and goes to the local hospital to find out what that neck lump was. It is September 2011.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Quote from the transcript:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">As soon as…because, I went into the hospital, and they…it took ages for them to tell me about the lump. So I walk back in there, about two/three weeks later, because I really wanted to know. And they were like, ‘Oh, the doctor’s on holiday, blah blah blah blah,’ and I was like, ‘No, I need to know now.’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So then a girl that I knew, her boyfriend was a doctor there</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, so he saw me, you know, in a bit of a panic. And he came over and he was, ‘are you okay?’ And I…explained the situation, and I was like ‘I really need to know. What’s going on, what do I need to do.’ Like, ‘why is it taking weeks?’ And then he pulled me into a room and he said, ‘okay, I’ll go and find out.’ So he went off and found my records, come back [sic] and he was like, ‘I’m really sorry to tell you, but </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">it’s papillary thyroid carcinoma.’ He goes…you know, my chances of survival are very slim</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, because it’s like all over, and I was just like, ‘oh my god.’</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Note that Candice mentions a “fatal diagnosis”. I am truly looking forwards to seeing documentation for this and getting that statement from the doctor.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Then I tried looking for information on what tests she might have had up to the point where she met this boyfriend-of-a-girl-she-knows-doctor. On </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/161184177262976/permalink/233377190043674/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://www.facebook.com/groups/161184177262976/permalink/233377190043674/</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> (currently deleted) there is the following post, dated September 18</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: super; white-space: pre-wrap;">th</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, 2011 (she keeps referring to September as the month of getting diagnosed in other sources)</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">If what she has written is precise, it would seem at that point she had a biopsy/histology confirmed spread of papillary thyroid cancer to the neck lymph-nodes, consistent with stage I papillary thyroid cancer, for which 5 year survival rate is practically 100%. If the spread was more distant further, and even if the doctors would suspect cancer spreading to liver (which she later claims was benign tumors) AND lungs, I find it hard to believe that this doctor would give a terminal diagnosis before arrival in nuclear medicine centre in the bigger hospital in the city, doing more tests on that liver lesion and “something” on lung and before finding out her response to radioactive iodine therapy. With hypothetical spread to lungs or liver the cancer would still be classified as stage II (any T, any N, M1), for which survival rate is still good: </span><a href="http://www.cancer.org/cancer/thyroidcancer/detailedguide/thyroid-cancer-staging" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://www.cancer.org/cancer/thyroidcancer/detailedguide/thyroid-cancer-staging</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Garamond; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> unless she is one of those people who do not respond to radioactive treatment (are RAI non-avid), in which case chemotherapy could be an option and survival rate would be worse. But, because radioactive treatment has not been even tried yet, I don’t understand how a doctor at that point would suggest she is terminal.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">PHASE 2 – SURGERY, RADIOACTIVE TREATMENT IN THE CITY</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So, sometime in autumn of 2011 Candice goes to the “city hospital” in Perth, namely Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital. To a fellow patient in radiation oncology, this place looks pretty cool: http://www.scgh.health.wa.gov.au/OurServices/CancerCentre/RadiationOncology/index.html</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Her experience in this hospital is described in the next part of the podcast here: </span><a href="http://realitybasedmedicine.blogspot.com/2015/04/candice-of-cancer-part-ii.html" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://realitybasedmedicine.blogspot.com/2015/04/candice-of-cancer-part-ii.html</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Candice goes to 2 different surgeons in the city who both say she needs to have her thyroid and lymph nodes removed, followed by radiation and possible chemo. It is probable that doctors laid out the possible ways how the treatment could pan out and chemo could potentially be a part of the story. She mentions going natural to a doctor, who tells her that without treatment she will lose voice and possibly die. But it is also clearly said that with treatment she has very good survival rate:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">CANDICE: “</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I ended up being scared into the surgery…I went to two different surgeons, and they both said the same thing: total thyroidectomy, take all the lymph nodes out, then radiation, possible chemo, blah blah blah. When I went in there and I said to them ‘look, I want to do it naturally,’ he was just like ‘oh, okay, yeah. If you do it naturally, if you leave it for another year and it takes over, you might lose your voice, you know, it will probably eat at your vocal cords’ – really scare tactics – and he was like ‘and then you’ll probably die.’ Like, literally.”</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">“And then, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">90% survival rate, they gave me, from doing it their way.</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> They were like, ‘yeah, high chances, we’ll just take out the thyroid, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">you might not even need radiation</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">we’ll see how you go.’”</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">It is interesting that these doctors who have seen her supposedly terminal test results from earlier diagnostics are now saying that Candice has a 90% survival rate and may not even need the first step of adjuvant radiation treatment. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">In October 2011 the “best surgeon in Perth” does her full thyroidectomy and lymph-node removal. During the surgery she also gets her parathyroid glands removed, which she considers a major error of the surgeon, although this is a known possible complication from thyroidectomy. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">In November 2011 Candice finds out that the tumor (primary tumor in thyroid) was stage 3 and the lymph nodes were stage 1. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I believe this information comes from the full pathology report after thyroidectomy and lymph node dissection surgery and suspect these numbers are a part of TNM staging formula (a standard way to describe how large a cancer is and how far it has spread), where:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">• T indicates the size of the main (primary) tumor and whether it has grown into nearby areas.</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">• N describes the extent of spread to nearby (regional) lymph nodes. Lymph nodes are bean-shaped collections of immune system cells to which cancers often spread first. Cells from thyroid cancers can travel to lymph nodes in the neck and chest areas.</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">• M indicates whether the cancer has spread (metastasized) to other organs of the body. (The most common sites of spread of thyroid cancer are the lungs, the liver, and bones.)</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">If that is the case, at this point she would possibly have: </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">T3: The primary tumor is larger than 4 cm across, or it has just begun to grow into nearby tissues outside the thyroid. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">N1: The cancer has spread to nearby lymph nodes</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">N1a: The cancer has spread to lymph nodes around the thyroid in the neck (called pretracheal, paratracheal, and prelaryngeal lymph nodes). </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">N1b: The cancer has spread to other lymph nodes in the neck (called cervical) or to lymph nodes behind the throat (retropharyngeal) or in the upper chest (superior mediastinal).</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">M value depends on what distant spread Candice potentially has:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">MX: Distant metastasis cannot be assessed.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">M0: There is no distant metastasis.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">M1: The cancer has spread to other parts of the body, such as distant lymph nodes, internal organs, bones, etc.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Staging thus depends on what the M value is – M0 or M1.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Stage I (any T, any N, M0): </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The tumor can be any size (any T) and may or may not have spread to nearby lymph nodes (any N). It has not spread to distant sites (M0).</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Stage II (any T, any N, M1):</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> The tumor can be any size (any T) and may or may not have spread to nearby lymph nodes (any N). It has spread to distant sites (M1).</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The staging information comes from here: http://www.cancer.org/cancer/thyroidcancer/detailedguide/thyroid-cancer-staging</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Sometime after surgery Candice has a CT of thyroid bed. Excerpt from the deleted FB group.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><img height="117px;" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/Asu26YI-91f1kQxzkXPukiMCMkqagaGlrMST2Qtk0vfSRK6gcAnh84Glga8AkyRz1HSlpwA31oPUcHLnk5mZNh9UIbrSySfdXw02oVpashf0hhJQNnVZtVqz89JfVCFKGUkGt44s1Nve9zgL" style="-webkit-transform: rotate(0.00rad); border: none; transform: rotate(0.00rad);" width="399px;" /></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">It is not quite clear if this really was a CT scan, maybe a medical professional could elaborate on how typical it would be to check post-operative thyroid bed remnants with a CT scan. My own remaining thyroid cells in the thyroid bed showed up in a neck ultrasonogram and a whole body scan (WBS) before radioactive treatment, when nuclear medicine department was planning the dose of RAI I would need.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Having such remains in thyroid bed is typical, as it is not possible to surgically remove thyroid without leaving something behind. Also, it is worth pointing out that, as far as I have read, CTs before a planned radioactive iodine treatment can be contraindicated – if iodine containing contrast dye is used, that could diminish the efficacy of radioactive treatment because remaining thyroid cells would have a smaller ability to absorb radioactive iodine. The said hospital offers PET/CT scans as well, maybe it was that?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Then the next step is radioactive iodine therapy. It is also referenced as radiation in her texts, but this should not be confused with external beam radiation therapy (which can also be an option in thyroid cancer treatment). </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">From what I gather, Candice was actually lucky and did not have to go through “hypohell” – this is how patients call the process of going hypothyroid naturally (I find it ironic and amusing that in this very “unnatural” course of treatment she gets to skip the really unpleasant “natural” phase) by not having any replacement hormones for quite some time to make sure any remaining thyroid cells (benign or cancerous) are sufficiently “starved” of iodine and the ablation is as successful as possible. She supposedly receives Thyrogen instead, which artificially causes sufficiently high TSH results in a few days, so the patient does not have to endure unpleasant hypothyroid symptoms for long. (I’m a bit jealous here – I had to go hypo naturally and I felt like an intellectually challenged puffy blowfish for a long time, because lack of thyroid hormones messes with concentration skills and makes you puffy and extremely sluggish.)</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">It is worth pointing out that her radioactive iodine therapy is scheduled on December 14</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 9px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: super; white-space: pre-wrap;">, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">2011 and it appears that she expects to be cancer-free in 10 days by Christmas, although in October she was told that the results of radioactive treatment may not be known for a year. To me this shows a complete lack of understanding about the radioactive treatment process and maybe explains why she got so shocked by that post-RAI scan after which she thought her cancer had spread because of surgery and radiation.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This is a fragment from </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> (currently deleted, but screenshot, yay!) </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So, at some point between the surgery (initial lumpectomy and biopsy) in October 2011 and radioactive treatment in December 2011 she had a CT scan in which tumors are found in liver. I am not sure what the diagnostic process would be, if doctors would potentially think that could be cancer spread to liver. I am having a hard time tracking down the exact time when it became clear they were benign, but in an article she wrote for Eluxe magazine (http://eluxemagazine.com/magazine/killer-fillers-one-models-story/),she states that in 2012 she was diagnosed with a benign liver tumor. So it is not clear if at the moment when Candice was going for RAI, she already knew they were benign. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">On December 14</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 9px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: super; white-space: pre-wrap;">th</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> 2011</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, Candice enters the hospital for radioactive iodine treatment. In my hospital standard tests right before RAI were abdomen USG, lung X ray, blood tests and 1 WBS (a.k.a whole body scan, whole body scintigraphy or i-131 scan) to determine the necessary ablation dose of radioactive iodine. She has not specified what her tests were precisely, but it is interesting that I have not seen a single post where she mentions WBS - a form of visual imaging, which is crucial in diagnosis of papillary thyroid cancer. I have only seen neck ultrasound, CT and MRI mentioned and I think it shows that she does not understand the differences between the results that can be obtained by different methods and what their goal is. It is also useful to note the date of treatment, because the administered radioactive iodine dose will keep working until December 2012.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Then she takes the radioactive iodine capsule and goes into isolation for the first days in the hospital. During this time patient has to take regular showers, drink lots of water to excrete the radioactive iodine through urine, feces and sweat. The patient becomes radioactive and dangerous to others, that’s why the nurse says that she can only leave the hospital when the radiation monitor shows a specific radioactivity level. Then, according to the transcript from the podcast, she goes to an outpatient facility where she has to stay for one more week until radiation levels drop further to avoid harming other people. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">From </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-will2-live-Attitude-Cancer/109231765851115?sk=info&tab=page_info</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, again deleted, but screenshot. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><img height="146px;" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/GiGmoOP4ELmjHJBaJ6jfE8i9I7b7HUpN-c1wJODofIKy5RK1fApJA5Z7LvUBGNzjwIbmXabI1Hvo-Idi-YBg7Knb1OneEFjOBRCS2GqLhKYX4mgvqlHSDFdF3f2A2LDv_4GA9Oq0dAQtGE9o" style="-webkit-transform: rotate(0.00rad); border: none; transform: rotate(0.00rad);" width="379px;" /></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I went back to the hospital for </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">a MRI scan</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> to see how the radio-active Iodine had worked</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This is when I was told that the Cancer had spread into my </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">right lung and more extensively in my neck and chest area also</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> :(</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">From the podcast: </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The Monday after [radiation] I went in for a scan…and </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">my doctor wasn’t there, and the guy that was there, he was all, ‘oh I think I’d rather your doctor gave you the news</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">.’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And I was like ‘No, I don’t want to wait, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">she’s on</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">holiday</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Can you give me the news?’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And he was just like, ‘are you sure?’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And…I was just like…‘Tell me. Like just tell me.’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And he was just like ‘I’m really sorry to tell you this… the cancer has spread. It’s now </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">gone into your right lung, it’s gone more down your chest lymph nodes, it’s in the back of your neck</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> – </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">the lymph nodes that weren’t affected </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">– I had five tumours on my liver…they were benign, but they were still there…and he said basically, ‘you’re looking at </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">like five years left to live</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">.’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And I was [sic] just looked at him, and I was just like…instantly, I was like, ‘how do you know five years? Instantly, I was like ‘where do you get five years from?’”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">[He said]: ‘Oh, just, you know, because cases, and, you know, we’ve seen this happen before, statistics, la la la. It’s about five years, you know, give or take.’ </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I was like, ‘oh, give or take.’ I couldn’t believe it.”</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Is it not weird that for a second time a terminal, horrible diagnosis is given by “a guy” who is not her doctor? And her real doctor again is on a holiday? That is some seriously bad luck. Who are these guys in hospitals wandering about and giving people terminal diagnoses? I would like to know so I can avoid them. Who knows, I may also suddenly turn from a stage I patient to a walking dead person just because I ran into these guys, scary!</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I have tried looking at all possible FB posts for the information on this scan and it is clear to me that she did not understand what test she had (I don’t see why she would go for MRI at that point), what happens at this stage of treatment or is deliberately lying. After RAI treatment a papillary thyroid cancer patient always receives WBS scan: also called whole body scan, whole body scintigraphy or i-131 scan. The idea is to see where radioactive iodine administered during RAI treatment collected and to plan further treatment strategy.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here is a good explanation of RAI and WBS: </span><a href="http://endocrinediseases.org/thyroid/cancer_rai.shtml" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://endocrinediseases.org/thyroid/cancer_rai.shtml</span></a></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Quote: </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">One week after receiving the dose, a whole body scan will be performed to show where the iodine collects in the body. Uptake is normally seen in the salivary glands, gastrointestinal tract, and urinary bladder. Normal uptake may also be seen in the liver. Seeing these areas light up on scan does NOT mean that thyroid cancer has spread to these organs. Often, uptake is seen in the mid portion of the neck where residual thyroid tissue (i.e. the remnant) is found. (Figure 4) Uptake in the sides of the neck may indicate that cancer has spread to lymph nodes. (Figure 5) Uptake in the upper-middle part of the chest (i.e. mediastinum) may be normal uptake in the esophagus or thymus or may indicate spread of thyroid cancer to the lymph nodes in the chest. (Figure 6) Uptake in the lungs or bones may indicate spread of thyroid cancer to these areas as well. (Figure 7)</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Also, one has to keep in mind that there could be two WBS scans (as in my case) – one right before administration of radioactive iodine and one about a week later, so she possibly had both. Here is an article about the meaning of result differences in-between these two scans: </span></div>
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<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3663998/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: blue; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3663998/</span></a></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Quote: In many centers, pre- and post-RAI whole body scans (WBS) are performed routinely on patients undergoing RAI for DTC. After surgery and prior to RAI delivery a pre-RAI WBS is performed with either </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: super; white-space: pre-wrap;">123</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I or </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 9px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: super; white-space: pre-wrap;">131</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I to identify remnant thyroid tissue and residual local or distant metastatic thyroid cancer. Post-RAI WBS is primarily done to identify metastatic disease not seen by the pre-RAI scan.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">What this means is that the results of the first and the second scan can differ, the second scan provides more information. I have a suspicion that maybe she actually had the first WBS scan right after her surgery and before RAI – the scan she called CT and in which remnants in thyroid bed were found. The machine for WBS scan really looks very similar to MRI or CT, so they could be confused. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Therefore, if Candice had iodine uptake in right lung, additional neck lymph nodes and upper chest, this is not considered cancer spreading. Whatever these lit up areas were, they could have been there all along, but were not detected in the other types of visual imaging tests she had. Also, as far as I understand, complete evaluation of areas that light up in the WBS scan is not instant, it takes time to see the changes in thyroglobulin cancer marker after the administration of radioactive iodine. To me it looks like Candice did not realize the differences in diagnostic methods and maybe thought that radiation and surgery caused a sudden spread of cancer in lung, neck and chest, because she was not aware of these locations before.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Even if all of this iodine uptake corresponds with metastatic spread, according to the TNS staging system, papillary thyroid cancer with a spread to lungs is T3N1M1, thus stage II. Not stage IV, not terminal, not deadly. 5 year survival rate for treated stage II papillary thyroid cancer is also excellent. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">After administration of RAI the patient has regular follow-ups to see the trend of thyroglobulin marker – decreasing is obviously great - and to adjust the replacement dose of thyroid hormones (which can also be a part of therapy for the suppression of remaining thyroid cells).</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So, surgeon and nuclear medicine people do the standard thing – they want to see how the remaining thyroid cancer cells react to radiation in the long term and tell her to come back in 6-9 months to see the progress and, if necessary, have more surgery or RAI. Again, she does not mention chemo being offered. For someone so scared of chemo that killed her friend and cousin, it seems strange not to mention it.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">In the podcast Candice says she had a visit with her nuclear oncologist at this 6 month post-RAI point.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">“It's just, you know, all these things happened. And then yeah, so I proved them wrong. In six months I went and had the test done, and it went from level 13, to naught-point-seven [0.7]. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So no large tumours, just small-scale cellular cancer left in me</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. And when I said to my nuclear oncologist, she was so shocked. And I was just like, ‘so, can I have it come from your mouth, that this is not the radiation that's done this, this is not anything you've done, this is what I've done, since leaving you?’</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And she was just like, ‘</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">look, I kinda hate to admit it, but it can't be...because...when we tested you, it was just level 13, now it's 0.7.’ She goes, ‘It's nothing to do with us</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. But we still want to mop up that 0.7 with some more radiation.’”</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The only situation where I can imagine the oncologist saying that is if she wanted to make sure Candice does not run away from conventional medicine while chanting and waiving a broccoli and kindly let her think she had some influence on this downward trend.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">CANDICE: “So I was just like, ‘Are you f*****g sh*****g me?’ And that’s when I sat there and I said, ‘I want to be real with you now. I’ve had the worst and the best…last few months, and I know you're not a bad person…I know that you think giving me radiation is good for me. You really do, you think you're doing good.’”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">SNARY: “That's what she's been indoctrinated into.”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">CANDICE: “Yeah. And I said, ‘But you're not. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">You're not gonna give me broccoli. I love my broccoli. But you're not gonna give me broccoli, and say that cures cancer</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">You're just not gonna do that. Because you deal in radiation, but I'm here to tell you that radiation doesn't really work. Like, you didn't tell me that it ups my chance of leukemia by 70%, did you?’</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And she was like…‘Why worry about one cancer when you're dealing with one now?’ That's what she said to me!</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And I was like, ‘Because I don't want another cancer down there! Why can't I deal with all these cancers and wipe them out? [...] That didn’t make sense to me either, and I was just like, ‘Look, I'm not gonna take it […] </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I'm not going down your route anymore, and I don't want to come for any thyroid clinics, I don't want to do anything that you...’</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">And she instantly was just like, ‘you know that you could be killing yourself.’</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Same, same thing!”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">SNARY: “Even after the results are in, and she'd seen the results for herself?”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">CANDICE: “Because it's 0.7! There's 0.7. And she goes, ‘</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This 0.7 could be hiding somewhere, and it could blow up.’”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: italic; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This is pure speculation, of course, but from that conversation it would seem to me that Candice had an open argument with her treating oncologist and tried to illuminate her that her stupid radiation does not work (despite TGB going down from 13 to 0.7), but broccoli does. I may be wrong, but I think if I was an oncologist, I would be internally screaming and thinking that this silly patient might have some residual disease left, she is about to quit conventional medicine completely and those 0.7 ng/ml might or might not cause recurrence later if the marker does not keep decreasing for the next 6 months. Who knows, maybe I would try to convince the patient to do one last RAI ablation just to be on the safe side, so Candice can continue prancing around Ibiza beaches, waving broccoli and actually being in a very safe position. Also, it can be seen here again that chemo is still neither specifically offered, nor rejected.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So Candice walks out of nuclear medicine department halfway through the 12 month period in which radioactive iodine is supposed to keep working, already with a very good result and a possibility that it will keep improving. In </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">December 2012, 1 year</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> after radioactive iodine Candice’s TGB result is 0.3. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><img alt="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/U51If7ZZoq7np1cYAS56jICKjGNeIp1WvGvRIYkhseUZNe8-knKOh0gA7Ok86Gm9Z3yMPJVMm37VaLOPFTeo86nlxW1nATgV5JWpXji7GAuZp5q6FL9DdmWeT-3uOOHlF2K3uopjcgz1CAuC" height="156px;" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_utrR1A3WFt_2yZC2a_ABldY412RIUj88bpFG7FYxC-_xJOgz51NYOIMJbyr74fyDBBj-j0OV4sCI5uYsRTkd-TiDagJzm9pfqKhArM6UP4IAyr9wJNJJVuJ-XPBVb3IJZoegWd8ybPAg3C7" style="-webkit-transform: rotate(0.00rad); border: none; transform: rotate(0.00rad);" width="519px;" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I cannot know what exact TGB result Candice’s oncologist was aiming for and if she had actually reached it. The results are always interpreted in the context of thyroid hormone level, we don’t know if she has appropriate hormone replacement therapy, any interfering thyroglobulin antibodies, if any of the TGB results were stimulated or not, if there could be potentially benign leftovers of thyroid tissue affecting TGB results - there are a lot of variables in play, so I can’t and won’t go into that as a non-specialist. But at face value that 0.3 ng/ml is really good. In one of my labs in Europe reference value for thyroglobulin in thyroidless people after RAI ablation is <2 ng/ml, in another one they have 0.2 as the lowest amount of TGB that the lab can detect, so <0.2 for me is awesome news - no thyroid activity can be detected. I don’t know what lab reference or methods are used in Candice’s case, but 0.3 is still pretty great.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Out of interest, I looked at my own results with RAI ablation date as the reference point in time: </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">6 months: 0.839 ng/ml (Candice’s is 0.7) – clearly I ate less pineapples</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">8 months: <0.20 ng/ml (undetectable) – I probably ate more pineapples than Candice</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So, where do I officially announce a miracle happened to me? I mean, it could not have been radiation, right? </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I have a suspicion that the only truthful number that refers to expected survival in her story is “90% survival with treatment”, as stated by her actual doctors, not some mystical guy or a friend of a friend that she met while her doctors were on holiday. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">My post is finally coming to an end. I primarily wanted to look into the timeline to see where Candice could have possibly misunderstood something, where the line between lack of understanding and pure dishonesty is and where the impossible claims are coming from. Perhaps the specific details about scans and treatment are not very interesting, I also cannot guarantee the accuracy of this timeline, because I am not a doctor, I have no medical education, and there is not enough information from Candice. However, it is not my duty or anyone else’s to prove anything about Candice’s treatment, it is her responsibility. Candice is the one declaring that she cured her cancer naturally, is building a business based on impossible claims. So the burden of proof is on her and she is welcome to submit any correcting information, confirmed by documents. Not generalized reports from naturopath MDs, nutritional oncologists or leprechaun podiatrists, but the actual documents from the 2 hospitals where she was treated - excerpts, blood test results, pathology results, all scans with corresponding dates, etc. All of it.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Candice still has to answer the following questions:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Where is the evidence for having been given 5 years left to live, being terminal/fatal/with very slim chances?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Where is the evidence that her diet did anything at all, if the timing in which TGB marker so beautifully decreased is still within 12 months of RAI being administered? I.e. – where exactly is the miracle?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Why both times “a fatal diagnosis” was presented by someone who was not her doctor, while her own doctor was on a holiday? Who were these people and what were their qualifications? Where is their statement confirming that they gave such diagnosis to Candice?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">How did the journalists get their facts so wrong about cancer spreading to liver? Where did they get the idea of Candice being stage IV?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Also, because the readers must have been really patient to read this very long post, which does not contain so much material for comedy (hats off to Ella for her transcript commentary), I have a special treat for dessert. It shows Candice’s thinking and grand plans for her future health. If you think curing terminal cancer with pineapples was a bold statement, you’re in for a surprise.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Yes, you read it correctly, Candice expects to prove those evil, evil medical professionals wrong, to regrow her missing thyroid and stop using those the silly hormone replacement pills. As one of the readers/writers on this blog said a bit sarcastically, she could revolutionise the transplant system. Maybe she is in the wrong line of business, what do you think?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">If it was my call, I would prefer she continues her road of psychic exploration, floats to some alternative reality and becomes a leprechaun podiatrist instead of a fake cancer cure promoter. We can all hope, right?</span></div>
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Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com86tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-90412874646892872822015-04-12T19:11:00.000-05:002015-04-12T19:41:08.548-05:00Candice on Cancer, Part V <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0in;">
<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Well,
this is it guys. The final instalment of the transcript of Candice’s ‘Statera
Podcast’ interview. I’m surprised that so many of you read it. It’s almost as
though you’ve been trained to do so by some kind of top secret government
agency. Well done, comrades! <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">I’m
really hopeful that now that all this data is in print for posterity, it can
help others to piece this story together. Auma has already prepared some
stellar detective work for your perusal.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Even
Candice has acknowledged that some significant errors regarding her story have
made it into print, and that’s a cause for concern. So many people are affected
by cancer, and it’s tempting to believe even the most far-fetched of stories,
especially when they appear to have passed through the fact-checking process
that we all expect from reputable news agencies. My hope is that we can sort
fact from fiction once and for all and keep this particular Fox out of the
henhouse.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 16.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Candice on Cancer, Part 5: We’re
not in Candice anymore, Toto!<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “I mean, when I cured
myself, like, convincing my family that I’d done – like, because I was in
Australia, curing myself, and they were in England – going back and even
convincing them that I *had*…because they’re still eating their Macca’s
[McDonalds], you know, they’re still drinking and whatnot. And trying to, like,
I bought them all juices and was, like, saying, ‘hey, you can do it this way,
la la la.’ It was just very, very hard, and they just didn’t want to. They
didn’t want to believe, I don’t know…because it breaks people’s habits. They
don’t want change, and blah blah blah. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"> But
even now – and I never thought they would change – more and more I’m getting,
you know, my mum messaging me, ‘Candice, have you got any natural remedies for
this, that?’ And she’s…she would have been a pharmaceutical woman, you know?
Like ‘a pill for every ill.’ But she’s not! Like, she’s asking me for natural
remedies and stuff. And to me, that’s major. She, even when I said I’d cured
myself of it, she was just like, ‘Oh, you know, but the doctors still, blah
blah blah, they have their place,’ which, I agree. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">But I was just like, ‘But
mum! I have just done it with food! Come on!’”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure.
That’s all you need!”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “But now, but now it’s
happening. And, yeah, a lot more people are really waking up, like to…like I
said, the family that I was living with when I got diagnosed, they, yeah, they
too were just like, ‘No, the medical way, the medical way, the medical way.’
But then when they saw that that didn’t work, then they started, like, ‘Woah!’
and then, you know, they started buying some organic bits coming in the house,
and, you know, my cancer affected everyone around me. I know that. Like, in a
bad way, but ultimately a good way. You know, we dealt with the bad, and, you
know, they lived through it with me, which I really appreciate and love them
for, but now they’ve got something out of it. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Because, you know, little
bits and bobs. And even, you know, my ex [boyfriend] is telling all his
workmates…all these big lads…up in the mines, that his ex [girlfriend] cured
herself of cancer, and, like, get [sic] emails through to send my little e-book
to ‘em and stuff. And it’s just like, people are gradually spreading the
message. Even my partner now – avid meat-eater, like, meat only, meat only –
but, now he’s [sic] doesn’t eat meat. Like, and I’ve not pushed that on him…and
now he’s spreading it to his, like, big lads up in the mines, you know, like
‘she’s cured herself of cancer, blah blah blah, the healthy way,’ and saying
the benefits that *he’s* feeling. Without having it forced on him – he’s fully
chosen that way. And I think we’re all doing our little bit, and spreading a
little bit of message [sic] and stuff.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">After
talking about ‘The Liberators’ for a while (a group of people who infiltrate
train carriages and brainwash ordinary citizens into dancing to their tune), they
have the following exchange:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “I love the internet.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “ME TOO! [emphatically
slapping the table] I love it. I hope that they don’t, like, one day govern it
so much that you can’t get…because apparently in America, like, they’re
stopping, like, some certain pages going out, like…”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “Yeah, I know. It’s
always going to be there, but there’s more…it’s too late. There’s more of us
than there is of them. So, you know, we’ll be fine.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “Power to the people!”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">There’s
that sinister “them” again. I hate to break it to you, Snary, but I have it on
good authority that the US government is actually cloning Violet, in a
dastardly plot to infiltrate the internet with thousands of little super-charged
cyborg Violets obsessed with truth, accuracy and reason!<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “I had the website all
set up and that, and I’ve decided that I need to offer more, I need to keep,
you know, giving more content, so I’m getting the whole website redesigned, and
that should be out within, like, a few weeks. I’ve got a Facebook page…”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Yeah,
we know.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “…which is
‘healthycandy.me,’ I’ve got DreamCatchers International, which has got a
[Facebook] page, it’s not got a website yet. There’s loads of different portals
[…] there’s loads of different health portals that I’m surrounded by that
people can just tap into, and just take what they want, what resonates with
them. Like, I’m not saying, you know, ‘go and juice, go and do everything,’
because, you know, it doesn’t work for everyone. Just take what you think…but
mostly, is [sic] listen to yourself. Like, I’m seeing a magnetic…”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “…what resonates with
you.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “Yeah, exactly! And
it’s like, your body’s actually really telling you. You know, all the time,
your intuition, your everything. And it’s, like, whether you choose to listen.
So I’m seeing a magnetic, a biomagnetic healer. Totally didn’t believe in it,
but he was like, ‘I’ll give you a free session, la la la,’ so I was like, ‘oh,
I’ll give it a try.’ <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">He told me, after that
session, everything that was going on. He was like, ‘Oh, you’ve got a bad lower
back, you’ve got a bad knees [sic], you’ve got bad hips,’ because I’d just
*smashed* it at the gym. Like, I was doing five times a week, and now I’ve had
to stop. And he just knew. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">And I was like, ‘Oh, I’ve
just been laying here while you’ve been putting magnets on me, there’s no
way…you could have known that.’ <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">And now I go and see him,
well, he only sees me, like, every…when my body says. So I got my partner in
there, and he said to him, ‘Oh, I can’t, you know, your body doesn’t need me to
see you.’ You know? He was just like, after that one time, that was it.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Wow,
it’s really miraculous that these practitioners of fantasy-based medicine are
able to sense Candice’s need for attention. I wonder why the boyfriend’s body
didn’t need to be seen, but the pretty blonde model’s did? The universe is so
mysterious.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “But with me, he thinks
next time might be my last one, which is my fourth. But I just go into such a
deep state of mediation with him that, with Rishi doing my other energy
healing, with Edgar doing my biomagnetic stuff, and me looking after myself,
with my naturopath at my side, kinda thing, and then doing the health, I’m
surrounded by…well, I’m [sic] believe I’m doing complete health, now. Like,
I’ve stopped drinking, stopped coffee, stopped meat, stopped dairy, and I’m
just back to pure health, but not so extreme. <o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">And so, I want to
advocate that way. So on my website, it will be that, but it’s all about a
balance. Like, if you want to have a coffee, you want to have a wine, you want
to have, you know, a bit of steak...”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “…a bit of chocolate.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “Have it, yeah! Go for
it. Like, because your mind will just be doing you in anyway, you know?
Thoughts are more toxic, and stress is the number one. So it’s like, do it, but
just balance, you know? Have your wine, but you know, have a green juice, like,
before or something, you know?”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">A
balanced diet? Well, this pretty much describes what all of us are already
doing. I’m not sure why we need a website for that.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “Coconut water is
fantastic too.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “Yeah, coconut in your
wine, it’s all a balance.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Snary
laughs, but Candice doesn’t. I don’t think she was actually joking.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “That’s the only way
people can live, really. Because we know that stuff’s there now, you know?
We’ve had it, we’re conditioned to want it and stuff. So just treat yourself,
but just, I say, eighty twenty. Eighty twenty rule.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Candice
is referring to the “Pareto principle,” which I couldn’t be bothered Googling
for you. I’m tired, people. So tired. I need to go and have a bit of steak, and
a bit of chocolate, and put the wine in the coconut and drink them both up.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “I’m so grateful for
the cancer, it was the best gift I could have given myself at the time, you know?
Like it got me out of what I was lying to myself about anyway, you know? So
it’s like, I could have taken the easy route and just not done it in the first
place, but then I had to have the big things. Like, ‘Oh, you haven’t listened
this time, [and] you haven’t listened this time, okay, you’re not gonna keep
listening? Fine, we’ll f*** you up,’ you know?”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">That
was either Candice’s cancer, or her body, or the universe, or all three,
telling her, ‘we’ll f*** you up.’<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Finally,
Snary thanks her for the “honour” of allowing him to share her story, and
expresses the hope that it may help others.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “That’s what I want to
do. That’s the main…I feel like, what 28 year-old gets cancer and cures it, and
just does nothing with it? Like, I feel like I have to, that’s why [I’ve got] a
graphic designer and what [sic], so I can put all my skills into…”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “It’s a responsibility,
but it’s a pleasant responsibility.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “It is! Well, I get
people asking me, like, information and stuff all the time. People that are,
like, have been diagnosed and stuff. I can give them an alternate, you know,
advice to what they’ve been given at the hospital. So to me it’s just like, I’m
not saying, ‘don’t do that,’ but just listen, I’ve done it, I’ve been through
it, I’ve done the their way [sic]. So I’m kinda glad that I done it [sic] their
way. I lost my thyroid, but I’m growing it back, you know?”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “But it’s a valuable
lesson.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “It is, because I can
say to people, ‘Look, I’ve done their way, and it didn’t work for me. But then
I’ve done another way. So before you step into their way, how…you probably had
this cancer…’ – I had mine for twelve years, apparently – so it’s like, ‘you
probably had this for years, why do you need to cut it out now? Why do you need
to radiate it now? Why don’t you just take six months off, go and do a juice
detox, do a bit of water fasting, you know, all that; and do that and then see
where you are in six months, and *then* cut your body open,’ you know?”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “Yeah, exactly. That’s
the best way to do it.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “That’s the best way I
can say it. It’s like, ‘stop for a second.’”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">SNARY: “But you have to overcome
the fear. That’s the main thing.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE: “It is very scary,
because you are surrounded by people that are telling you that you’re gonna
die. So you just need to be, yeah, meditate and go in yourself and be strong.”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">After some last-minute pleasantries, that’s
pretty much it.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">On her Facebook page, Candice and her supporters
are baffled as to why we’re questioning some elements of her story. I won’t
repeat all the childish and woefully ungrammatical insults Candice’s supporters
are hurling at incredulous visitors, but I’ll cite one comment that sums up
their attitude: “I don’t understand why you can’t let people be with their
lives, choices and beliefs?”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">I’m going to answer that question. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">After listening to the whole podcast, I think
what people say about Candice is true. I think she’s probably a ray of
sunshine. She’s gorgeous, she’s effervescent, she’s relentlessly cheerful, and
she is nice to those people who don’t question her story or resist her
aggressive proselytising.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">She’s not very bright. She’s not very articulate.
I think she has genuinely failed to understand much of what has happened to her,
and doesn’t have the mental capacity to filter what she hears. Unfortunately,
she’s also convinced of her “intellect,” her calling, and the superiority of
her magical intuition. She comes across in the podcast as profoundly
egocentric, and the alternative medicine ethos nurtures that. I hope she’ll
grow out of it.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">I don’t doubt that Candice had thyroid cancer,
and as a very unwell person myself, I actually have tremendous sympathy for
her. Her personal story is just that – a personal story. She has license to muddle
fact with fiction as much as she likes, if it makes her feel better. But she voluntarily
told her story to the public, so she invited scrutiny. That’s the deal. That is
true of any book, interview, academic paper, scientific study. The world is not
obliged to accept information uncritically, especially when it contradicts
sound, tested principles. In fact, subjecting information to criticism and
dialogue is part of good scholarship and good sense. It’s also kind of a joy,
discussing new ideas – flaming bad ones, debating the merits of good ones.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">As for why we’re focusing on Candice in
particular, that’s also very easily explained. Candice is the third young
Australian woman whose cancer story has fallen apart in recent weeks. They just
keep popping up, like the heads of Cerberus. First, Jess Ainscough died of
cancer after rejecting conventional medicine and publicly endorsing Gerson
Therapy. Then Belle Gibson, still mourning for her friend Jess, tearfully
admitted that she was “mistaken” about her cancer diagnosis, while her long
history of willful deception was exposed in the media. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Before the dust had even settled on that
controversy, Candice appeared in the tabloids blissfully spruiking pineapple
enzymes and claiming she had cured her own cancer. Candice admitted the errors
in those articles only after Violet and others brought them to her attention,
affirming the virtue of dissent. But Candice still doesn’t understand the
gravity of her deception, and the very great harm it may do. And though she now
insists that she never said she cured her cancer herself, or that she cured it
with pineapple, this podcast affirms that she did in fact make those claims.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Even in just this final instalment of the
transcript, she states 7 times that she cured her cancer herself:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">“I cured
myself...I was in Australia, curing myself...even when I said I’d cured myself
of it...I was just like, ‘But mum! I have just done it with food! Come
on!’...my ex [boyfriend] is telling all his workmates…that his ex [girlfriend]
cured herself of cancer...Even my partner now...he’s spreading it to his
[workmates]…like, ‘she’s cured herself of cancer’...I feel like, what 28
year-old gets cancer and cures it, and just does nothing with it?”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">She’s equally forthright about her plans to
counsel other cancer patients to avoid or postpone medical treatment on the
basis of her own miracle cure:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">“I can
give them an alternate, you know, advice to what they’ve been given at the
hospital...I can say to people...‘you probably had this for years, why do you
need to cut it out now?’”<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Candice, if you’re reading this, I’ll spell it
out in the simplest of terms: Jess died, Belle lied, and now you’re planning to
give medical advice to cancer patients based on a false story about curing your
own cancer. That might be very dangerous, especially if someone dies after
taking your advice.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">And to answer Candice’s supporters, why are we
focusing on Candice specifically? Why now? Because it’s in the public
consciousness now. Because we have an opportunity to avert a crisis. Because
prevention is better than cure.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com59tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-8222278485111263072015-04-11T23:32:00.001-05:002015-04-13T11:10:45.181-05:00Candice on Cancer, Part IV[Written by reader Ella as a guest post].<br />
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This is the penultimate installment of our transcript of Candice’s interview on “The Statera Podcast.” After relating Candice’s poor grasp of chemo and radiation, I posed a few questions that some astute readers have clarified in the comments, so please do scroll down and have a look at those. Auma explains that the “level thirteen” Candice mentions probably refers to the “thyroglobulin marker,” Ann explains how “surgery can indeed spread the cancer,” and that “chemo does not truly ‘destroy’ cancer,” and Jared explains some aspects of the diagnostic process in some detail.<br />
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Today’s message is brought to you by Ayahuasca! If you don’t know what that is or how to pronounce it, keep reading. This post has everything. It’s got Nazis, it’s got imaginary babies, it’s got psychics, spiralling flowers, dancing on tables, third eyes, Ibiza, bodybuilding, and reincarnation. It’s a cornucopia of weirdness! Enjoy!<br />
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<b>Candice on Cancer, Part 4: You can’t spell “pineapple” without “pineal!”</b><br />
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When we left off yesterday, Candice had just said, <b>“opening somebody up, cutting 'em, giving oxygen to the cancer and spreading it, it's not the way…it's barbaric...it's not right. And I really wanna do as much as I can with the time that I have left to change it.”</b> She continues:<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Which is why, you know, I want to do the bodybuilding with Michelle Nazaroff. Because people are visually orientated, you know? […] And obviously because people are visually orientated, I wanna have those pictures of me, you know, looking super-super-fit, and in a bikini [...]. Because all these people are like ‘you need meat...you need protein,’ […] I want to be able to say ‘you don't.’”</b><br />
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As I’ve stated before, I'm not a certified nutritionist. But I'm pretty sure you do need protein.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “...just to have a lean body, and be fit inside from real nutrition, and not, you know, dead, low-vibration food.”</b><br />
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Guys, my food doesn’t appear to vibrate much at all. Am I doing it wrong?<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I just wanna spread my message, like, with the world. So I want to get as fit as I possibly can and healthy as I possibly can - mind, body, spirit, everything...”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “To show that you can go through something like this and then come out...and be, like, at the optimal. Like, be an improved human temple.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, exactly…Everyone's different kinda learners. So I want to be able to speak it, so that why I've done loads of speaking courses, I wanna be able to get my message across to every kind of learner. The kinesthetics, the auditory, you know, visual...all of that. I want to cover every base, so I'm not missing people just through, you know, their learning skills […].</b><br />
<b>I've just started a business, Dreamcatchers International, and myself and Kim Barrett – he's a NLP practitioner – we go 'round and we kinda like train people and help people into optimal health through alkalising and whatnot.”</b><br />
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NLP stands for “Neuro-Linguistic Programming,” a self-help methodology that claims to be able to cure the common cold, amongst other things. It has been dubbed a “form of folk magic” by medical anthropologists and a “psycho-religion” or a “quasi-religion belonging to the New Age and/or Human Potential Movements” by sociologists and anthropologists [<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming#Scientific_criticism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming#Scientific_criticism</a>].<br />
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Dreamcatchers International doesn’t have a website yet, but its Facebook page can be found here: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DreamCatchersInternational">https://www.facebook.com/DreamCatchersInternational</a><br />
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<b>SNARY: “So, preventative measures. Which is really I think the key with all this.</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Preventative, yeah. It’s the key, it is the key, yeah, yeah, yeah. ‘Prevention is better than cure,’ the saying [goes]. We're actually going over to Ibiza to do a health retreat [in] October...I do end-of-season, so I detox the ravers.”</b><br />
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If prevention is better than detox, wouldn't it be better to go in September and stop the ravers from “toxing” in the first place?<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “This year is gonna be the first kick-off year. We're eventually gonna get it on TV, kinda like, you know, like a sit-com-y kind of show where...because there's some celebrities over there, because it's Ocean Beach Club [a club in Ibiza], so it's very celebrity-orientated, so it's gonna be quite...people are gonna want to see it, but it's gonna get the message out there to people that wouldn't necessarily usually think ‘oh,’ you know, like ‘you can cure cancer?’ or ‘you can cure it, like, naturally?’”</b><br />
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Okay, this a little confusing, so let me clear it up for you. Candice and her folk magician colleague are going to make a sit-com style television program in Ibiza which will disseminate the message that you can cure cancer with fantasy-based medicine. And people are “going to want to see it.” I have to confess, a part of me does want to see it. My review would make such a great blog post.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I must say, I, like you said, I don't want people to totally write off the medical world. Because obviously they've got their benefits, you know?”</b><br />
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I’d really like her to detail what those benefits are, considering her wild claims about the dangers of modern medicine in the first half of the podcast.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “But there are other alternatives, you know, you can get a live blood analysis...as opposed to a normal blood [analysis]. You can see how your blood is, and it's like a whole galaxy...you can see what is going on with your living blood […].”</b><br />
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Candice and Snary talk about this for a while from around the 48 minute mark. I won’t burden you with it. Quackwatch adeptly debunks that particular brand of woo here: <a href="http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/livecell.html">http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/livecell.html</a><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “And now, because I've...cleansed my pineal gland, to the point where it's...really cleansed...it's so decalcified...I started getting really bad headaches, so...when I had the surgery, and I started...juicing and cleansing, I started getting like ‘ZZZZZT!’ [makes zapping noises and gestures at head]. Like seriously, my whole skull would shake. So much so that I went back to the hospital and got a scan to see if I had a brain tumour. Like I seriously...every single night, it was like ‘RRRRRR!’ [makes ringing noises and gestures at head] in my head.”</b><br />
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See? Dysfunctional alarm bells!<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “And now, with all the research and what I've known, it was literally my pineal gland activating.”</b><br />
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Now, this is where ‘very weird’ becomes ‘really very weird.’ The whole concept of “cleansing” or “decalcifying” the pineal gland is New Age claptrap. It's based on the idea that the pineal gland is - wait for it - the “third eye.” An anonymous but fiercely rational girl who isn’t Violet and probably isn’t a highly-trained secret agent debunks the myths here: <a href="http://biologyweeps.tumblr.com/post/71232361448/on-quacks-and-the-pineal-gland">http://biologyweeps.tumblr.com/post/71232361448/on-quacks-and-the-pineal-gland</a>). <br />
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Candice is claiming that her headaches were due to the fact that her “juicing and cleansing” had “activated” her third eye, the much-mythologised mechanism of spiritual perception that supposedly regulates the biological processes of the body and allows you to develop supernatural powers. She goes on to relate the psychic abilities resulting from this activation. I’ll forgive you if you don’t want to read it. I’m including it because it plays into her future plans for a business, a business based largely on her spurious cancer story.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Now I can see the energies, and I can make...little energy balls and pull it apart. And I was working with my energy healer, Rishi [presumably "Rishi Awakeanand," a Perth-based Hindu psychic]; incredible man. Like, as soon as I met him, he knew stuff about me that it just wasn't possible…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “…for him to know.”</b><br />
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Okay, how did Snary know that’s what Candice was about to say. SPOOKY.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Like, I'm so sceptical about stuff, like ‘yeah, whatever, no s***.’ But he just knew, he knew so much. </b><br />
<b>So then I just kept going back...I go to him once a month now. And now we don't even talk...literally, we do energy stuff, and he just will say a few words, he'll be like, ‘okay, focus on this point, focus on this point,’ and ‘I'll...open some channels and stuff.’ And he'll tell me to focus in on a certain...on my third eye, and then focus in on another part of my body, and just work the energy, keep the energy flowing and stuff, and then after a while I start seeing, like, a flower [makes a spirally motion with her finger] like, petalling [sic]. My eyes are shut, and I can see like a flower. </b><br />
<b>And then basically he'll tell me just to keep delving down, like, the wormhole. And my first little psychic vision was...the other day with him, I saw, like, a baby...you know, like a…is it like a ‘fetus?’ And I said to him, ‘Oh my god, I can see, like, a baby. I think it's a brand new, like, literally just conceived kind of baby.’</b><br />
<b>And he was just like, ‘Okay, whose baby is it? Whose baby is it? Think about it. It's not yours, but whose is it?’ </b><br />
<b>And I just couldn't...get that. But he's fully psychic. And he knows that I have got that too. We all have that, but we've just over the years been dumbed down, and the fluoride in the water...and the vibration's gone.”</b><br />
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that fluoridation of water is apparently what causes calcification of the third eye.<br />
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So, to recap, Candice’s first “psychic vision” was a mental image of an unborn baby that wasn’t her baby, and she doesn’t know whose baby it was. Do any of you out there have a baby, expect a baby, want a baby, know a baby, or know someone who has had or is having a baby? Because, guys: this could be that baby.<br />
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On the other hand, the baby could simply symbolise something else, which throws it WIDE open.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “But we are all psychic. And you would never have caught me saying this five years ago...[but] now I'm seeing stuff. Like, I'll just be...sitting down, and then...I'll see the wall start to vibrate. And I'll just be like ‘oh my god.’ And then my third eye will just start, like...I can feel it now, even talking about it.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, I’ve had that before, too.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “It just starts activating. And I’m at the beginning of this journey. So the cancer journey for me is done, I've got no more cancer. It's now nought-point-two [0.2]. And I just keep going and getting regular checks, like seeing my naturopath, and just keep getting checks, like, my way – not, you know, being scared into another way. And now I'm just opening the door to this psychic ability. Like, it’s...I never thought it…even saying it now, I’m like, ‘f****** weird.’ You know what I mean?”</b><br />
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Yeah.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “But it's there! Like, I can see it, I can play with the energy, you know? I can do it, I'm actually seeing it, I'm not making it up. And then, when I'm meditating now, I'm seeing...images flash past me, and it feels like it's a past life, because it's like...for instance last night when I was meditating, like hundreds and hundreds of...it looked like Nazi soldiers marching past me. And I don't know if I'm one of them, or if I'm just a bystander…”</b><br />
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Candice-Marie Fox has just revealed that she thinks she was somewhere in the Third Reich in a past life, and she’s not sure whether she whether she was a Nazi or a “bystander.” As offensive and ridiculous as this is, I’m actually relieved that she knows something factual about world history.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “…but they are marching past me. Like, I can see it all. But it's more like it's loads of shapes, and then they turn into this image, and then it will go. And then it will turn into another image. And I'm so new to it, I'm not sure what's what. I'll get a projection, it'll look like it's projecting out, and there'll be images there.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, you’ve just got to stay witness to it, Candice. Don’t try and over-analyse it or try and understand it, just be a witness to it all. And then you’ll come to a point where you’ll be like, ‘Ah, okay, I get it a bit more now.’ But don’t, like, don’t put too much energy into…”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, okay. Yeah. I know. It’s because I kinda like, I want to know.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, but just don’t. Just witness it.”</b><br />
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This attitude is precisely why Candice and her supporters are so incensed by attempts to authenticate her cancer story. Alternative medicine is a nebulous, intuitive, unquantifiable, unfalsifiable, inscrutable entity that relies on absolute trust. Its effects are subjective, analysis is discouraged, and dissent is dismissed as “toxic.”<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “My energy healer, he's brilliant. Like every time I go and see him, I just get something else out of him...he came up to me, and he put his hands there [holding her hands up, palms out] and he said ‘put your hands on mine.’ Instantly, I could feel his energy, and he said ‘can you feel that?’ and I said ‘yeah.’ I shut my eyes, and when I opened my eyes I could see all the energy around him, and he said ‘you can see that?’ and I said ‘I can see that.’ And that's how he gets his readings and stuff. So eventually, I'm gonna be able to do that, and I'm gonna be able to help people like he's helping me.”</b><br />
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This is why it’s legitimate for us to pose reasonable questions about what would otherwise just be an oddball girl with a dubious personal story – because Candice plans to use her personal story and her “abilities” to “help” other people, presumably for a fee, through her businesses www.healthycandy.me and DreamCatchers International.<br />
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Adrian jumps in to elucidate the global “awakening” that is leading people more enlightened than you or I to activate their pineal glands:<br />
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<b>SNARY: “What's happening at the moment is that there are literally people waking up all over the world…There is a major shift, and people's abilities are starting to get to a stage where, again, like even twelve months ago, I would have thought ‘hang on, no no no no no no.’ But it’s happening, it is happening. And, like [turning to the camera], everyone, anyone out there who's listening to this and thinking ‘what the f*** are those [sic] talking about,’ I was one of you. Believe me, I was.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Same! Trust me, I was, like, from London, I used to, like, stand on tables and dance and s***, like, you know? Like…not like *that* [laughs].”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Sure. But this side of life is something you never would have thought of before, and I guess that’s the gift that cancer’s given you, that it’s shown you a more authentic way to live life, and a way to live life that humans lived for thousands and thousands of years. It's only really been recently, you could even say since the Industrial…or, say, maybe since agriculture and the Industrial Revolution where we started really...and consumerism, when that came out in the early twentieth century, where we just started eating s***** foods and processed foods and all these sugars...”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “It’s in the past fifty years, it’s like – there’s a correlation…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “…it hasn’t been long at all. And the diabetes, that has stepped up from there; autism, things like that.”</b><br />
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I’m pretty sure agriculture is thousands of years older than the Industrial Revolution, and cancer is as old as the human race. But this idea that cancer is a modern phenomenon, and that our ancestors were privy to some ancient wisdom that staved off disease, is central to the wacky “wellness” paradigm.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “There’s a correlation. I’ve watched so many documentaries, like ‘Fat Sick and Nearly Dead,’ like ‘Food Matters.’ there’s just so much out there, like ‘Food, Inc.,’ that just all spells it out for us. Like, in the fifty years that fast food and the whole food industry has been predominantly dominated by these fast food industries, like, the whole meat industry now is controlled because of…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “…fast food, yeah.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah! So it’s like, since then, it’s like, cancer has risen and risen and risen. Like ‘The China Study’ [a book advocating a vegan diet by Professor of Nutritional Biochemistry T. Colin Campbell and his son Thomas M. Campbell, a medical doctor]. You know? It’s just a correlation of where these bad, like, Western kind of foods are in China, compared to how much cancer there is, and, you know, lo and behold, it showed it! It’s just like…there’s a correlation between food and cancer, there’s a…food is amazing, it can either feed cancer or kill cancer…diseases in general.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, exactly. Or prevent it.”</b><br />
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She keeps using the word “correlation,” but I’m not convinced she totally understands what it means. She conflates it with causation, which is a major flaw in the alternative medicine paradigm. For example, Don Tolman (the muesli cowboy I referred to in yesterday’s post) alleges that because governments are funding more cancer research than ever before, and because cancer cases have increased in the past century, the government must be causing cancer. This logical fallacy is summed up in the Latin phrase, “Post hoc ergo propter hoc,” or “after this, therefore because of this.”<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah! Basically whatever you put in your mouth, your voting for what you want to do. Do you want to breed disease, or, like, prevent it?”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “But that’s the thing…I mean I’ve got someone very close to me who’s battling depression…and her comfort, or her medicine, is sugar.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Because it’s more addictive than cocaine.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “It’s more addictive, and it’s easier as well […]. It’s like a loop, and it’s like a cycle. And it’s very, very hard to break out of. So, it can be broken out of, like, either something will happen like yourself, where you’ll develop cancer or – not to say that’s what caused yours, but – or diabetes, or…”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Mine was everything, yeah. I was very toxic.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “It was probably a mixture of things, yeah. Just different toxins that you build up in this life.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, well even, like, shampoos and such, like you know, like, life in general.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Oh yeah. There’s just so much out there that can really feed on it. But the preferable thing to do is just to lead a lifestyle where it’s prevented in the first place.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “That’s the best way.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “And that’s where we need to start educating and showing people, ‘this is what you need to look at doing.’ Like, ‘if you can do this…’ [trails off].”</b><br />
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At this point, Snary launches into a wordy endorsement of Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca, pronounced “eye-uh-WAH-ska,” is a hallucinogenic plant drunk as a brew by natives of Peru, and also by Adrian Snary. I did transcribe all that, but it’s pretty dull. Even Candice gets bored when Adrian talks, gazing absently into middle-distance, slurping from a bucket-sized bottle of murky green juice and compulsively ruffling her hair. She sparks up a bit when he starts talking about the pineal gland.<br />
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Snary turns to the camera and explains the pineal gland at length, which he believes to be the mystical “third eye.” Candice agrees that it is <b>“the gateway”</b> to what Snary calls the <b>“other realms and other parts of this universe”</b> that <b>“we’re always, like, in.”</b> I’m editing that out, for the sake of brevity and sanity, but Candice does exclaim at the end of it, <b>“Oh, definitely. Like, everyone needs theirs activated.”</b><br />
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All of this is rather silly, but it’s not unethical, and it’s not fraudulent – until it all starts to influence Candice’s understanding of her cancer, and the dodgy personal story she’s marketing to the world. If you’ve been sleeping, now’s the time to wake up, because this is the excerpt the Daily Mail included with its feature on Candice, and she discusses her cancer again, at length:<br />
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<b>SNARY: “So Candice you had a [it sounds like he says “sedent” (sic)] lifestyle, you were then diagnosed with…”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Thyroid cancer.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Thyroid cancer, and then – I was going to say pituitary then, but yeah, thyroid cancer – you went into…did the surgery thing, the Western mindset scientific way and it didn't quite work, then you just took matters into your own hands, looked at it from the more holistic and natural way, to get to a point where you are now. How would you say...how would you describe yourself now, and the person you are now, compared to who you were in the days, months, before you found out about your cancer?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Well I believe that, you know, we mirror people that are around us. And I was attracting, you know, whatever I was. And everything was toxic, you know? So yeah, I was toxic with, like, chemicals, and you know, I was using, like, your normal shampoos, conditioners and all that. Like, I wasn't doing drugs or anything like before; that was like my younger days back in England, but I was in Australia after that. So yeah, the drug thing had stopped. We were drinking, but we were drinking at weekends, you know it wasn't crazy. I'd done all my damage in my younger days. </b><br />
<b>And so I was just very toxic, everything was toxic, the – you know – everyone I was kinda hanging 'round with was...they just weren't me. And I knew that, so there was this deep kind of like, I just felt like I was trapped, and I wasn't like...it's funny, because, you know, it's my thyroid, it's like, you know, the throat chakra which is your communication, and I wasn't communicating my truth, you know? So it's so funny, like the whole...”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “It was a kick up the ass.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “It was a massive kick up the ass! And now I look at everything from the energetical [sic], kind of like spiritual sense. It's like, ‘oh my god,’ you know, no wonder it was thyroid. I was constantly hiding the truth from me. I was just like, I was so unhappy, but I was in such bad situations, like that I just knew that weren't me, and I just allowed them to go on for, you know, various reasons.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “And that’s definitely something I've heard of before; how, like, keeping things in emotionally, depending on what it is, actually has, like, a part of your body...”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Emotions are so important, emotions...it's energy, so if there's a block somewhere, you're gonna get that on a disease kinda level. You really are, because it's the weak spot, you know? So it's the same with like the acid/alkaline balance, like…you're just gonna get cancer wherever the acid can go to, so it's just wherever your weakness is. It's the same as all energy and stuff like that.</b><br />
<b>So compared to then, now I love me. Like, I couldn't have loved me, because I wasn't nice to myself. Like, I was in relationships I knew weren't right for me, I was drinking with people I knew weren't right for me, you know I was just doing things against my natural intuition. I was literally getting signs and being told – my true self was telling me – and I was just like, ‘f*** you, I'm gonna do that!’ And I don't know why, but I was just going against what I knew was right.</b><br />
<b>But it had to happen, and now, yeah, I'm glad it all happened. Everything happens for a reason. And I love every single person that, like, I feel wasn’t right for me. They were right for me, in a way, you know? So like I still love every single person, because now it’s just, like, I’m attracting such amazing people. Like, I have had the sh******t relationships going. Like, seriously, I could write a book on relationships alone. About how bad I have had it…and it’s just because I’ve attracted that person, and we’ve…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah. That was part of you, that’s who you were.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah! And we’ve not been right for each other. Whereas now, like I’ve attracted an amazing bloke […] and it’s because I’ve attracted that, because I’m a mirror of him, and vice versa. Whereas back in the day, what I was attracting was me, so […].</b><br />
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Note to self: if I ever get married, “I’ve attracted an amazing bloke” is going on the front of our wedding invitations.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I used to smoke…like, I couldn’t do without a cigarette. I’d even…go out in the pouring rain to the shops to get a cigarette and have half of a cigarette and then be like, ‘ugh, don’t even like it,’ you know? But, like, I was in that mindset.”</b><br />
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It’s pretty telling that Candice thinks the “mindset” is more “toxic” than the actual cigarettes. Here’s a question for some of our expert readers: could the smoking in fact be what caused the “pre-cancerous cells” that Candice says were identified in her right lung?<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “And then as soon as I got the cancer – because I wasn’t really smoking before the cancer, but I would have a drink and have a cheeky cigarette – soon as I got the cancer, I was just like, ‘I don’t want that.’ Like it was just switched off. I didn’t have to think about it or anything. I didn’t drink, I didn’t…smoke, I didn’t eat crap, it was just so easy [clicks fingers]. Whereas before it was so hard to go on diets, it was so hard, do you know what I mean? Because I would just constant [sic] battle in my mind. But once I was so sure, well, I was gonna die if I didn’t, it was like there was no other choice, and I think…I’m glad I was given that wake-up call, because I probably would never have quit any of it, you know? I’d probably still be in that marriage, and just…not be happy, and him not be happy, you know? Like just be, it’s just…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah. But instead, you’ve got this life now!”</b><br />
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This is the second time Candice has referred to her smoking habit as <b>“a cheeky cigarette.”</b> The implication, I assume, is that she wasn’t actually a smoker, she just, you know…smoked.<br />
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Smoking doesn’t cause thyroid cancer. But I do think it’s interesting that she minimises these unhealthy habits, while overstating others. This pattern is critical to her narrative – that her cancer was not a mere physical problem per se, but a gift, a sign, a miraculous wake-up call from the universe to detoxify her life, paving the way for an equally miraculous healing. While she happily mines her past experiences for signs that “everything was toxic,” she’s more interested in her “toxic” marriage, her “toxic” relationships, and her vaguely “toxic” lifestyle than actual cigarettes, drugs or alcohol.<br />
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Again, there’s no evidence that any of these are to blame for her thyroid cancer. Candice is looking for a pattern that isn’t really there. When she was first diagnosed, she relates a sense of guilt, ie. “what have I done to cause this?” The fact is, illness isn’t always deserved, and it can’t always be cured. Sometimes bad things just happen, even to healthy, happy people.<br />
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And this is the great insult of alternative medicine. While Candice’s oncologist almost certainly would have told her that nothing she did or didn’t do caused her to get a papillary thyroid carcinoma, the alternative therapists she fled to told her it was a gift from the universe, here to teach her a lesson she desperately needed to learn. This suited Candice. It imbued an apparently meaningless experience with some sense of meaning. Then, when Candice recovered (mostly by virtue of her own efforts, she insists) it confirmed her own power over the circumstances of her life.<br />
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I can understand why this is appealing. Unfortunately, alternative medicine rewards the well, but penalises the sick. What is empowering for Candice is devastating for someone who is chronically or terminally ill. When a four-year-old child contracts a fatal disease, it’s not because she has toxic relationships. When an infant in a developing country dies of cholera, it’s not because the universe is trying to teach him a valuable lesson. When someone like Jess Ainscough eats all the right fruit, swallows all the right supplements, and thinks all the positive thoughts, and then realises she’s still dying, what goes through her mind? That she is a failure? That she is culpable?<br />
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What Candice fails to understand is that, for most people, alternative medicine is not “positive.” It’s costly, it’s exploitative, and it’s mercilessly punitive.<br />
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<br />Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com37tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-84033945567590900642015-04-11T11:07:00.000-05:002015-04-11T11:07:11.444-05:00Cussin' 'n Fussin'Hey, I just wanted to drop a quick line here about this. Ella's post on Candice-Marie reminded me that I wanted to address blog manners at some point. Ella kindly "bleeped out" the frequent profanity which pops up in that interview, and I am glad she did. I know that the word "bullshit" will naturally make its appearance here, and I am guilty of using that word here on more than one occasion, so I understand if that particular word gets used from time to time. I have never felt the need to moderate the comments or stop people from posting anonymously, because so far everyone has been incredibly civilized. I wish to keep it that way for two reasons, one of which I consider to be critically important in what I want to achieve here. The first reason is that I think that too much profanity cheapens the dialog and makes the point a person is saying much less credible. However, the main reason I do not want too much of that is because I always want people to feel like they can show this blog to their grandmother or mother. Despite all the youthful "wellness" warriors out there right now, cancer is primarily a disease of older people, and those people can get sucked into quackery too. So for that reason, I think it would be great if we could keep this blog as it is now in terms of language. This is mainly a message for any new people who come here, because everyone who is here right now has been really great in keeping it clean. Thanks everyone! Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-3262367012643298592015-04-10T11:16:00.001-05:002015-04-10T11:21:40.666-05:00Candice on Cancer, Part III[Written by reader Ella as a guest post].<br />
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Well, Candice-Marie Fox has apparently flipped out. The thin veneer of grace has collapsed, and she’s resorted to accusing detractors on her Facebook page of being “trained government agents.” I’m simply not going to engage on that. Not because it would be beneath me, but because if I blow my cover, my handler will put a burn notice on me faster than I can say ‘Natalia Romanova.’<br />
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For those catching up, I’m transcribing much of Candice’s comments on an obscure little homespun YouTube series called “The Statera Podcast.” Yesterday, we left off at the point where Candice claims that <b>“the guy”</b> standing in for her actual doctor broke the news to her that <b>“the cancer [had] spread”</b> and she only had <b>“five years left to live.”</b> Today, we get the scoop on Mark Simon, another guy standing in for an actual doctor.<br />
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But first, I urge you, comrades - whether you work for MI6, the CIA or Vladimir Putin – be careful out there. The sinister pineapple industry is a global threat, bent on nothing short of world domination. Don’t go out alone, always wear a trenchcoat, and please, whatever you do, carry antacids at all times.<br />
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<b>Candice on Cancer, Part 3: “Natural chemo…doesn’t do anything to your body.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “After…when he said that, ‘you’ve got five years, basically,’ I just instantly was just like ‘no.’ Like ‘something’s gotta change,’ like instantly, I was just like, ‘I can’t do this.’ So then that’s when I was just like, ‘F*** you!’ I was just like, ‘I’m gonna do it myself.’ Like, that’s when I just knew.</b><br />
<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span><b>So I went back to my partner and their family, and I explained that I wanted to do it, and they were…because they’d seen that the surgery and everything had spread it, you know. They’d seen that what we thought was gonna help me, didn’t help me…Like my partner’s mum, she was amazing, she took me all over, to appointments, and…just really helped me kinda like get to where I needed to be and do it the natural way, basically.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “So helping you research, and look into different methods.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just worked out really well after that. We started getting organic veggies shipped in, just everything organic, all clean. I stopped eating meat. I mean, the family at the time, they weren’t too keen on the whole ‘not eating meat.’ My mother-in-law, I remember her saying to me, ‘You’re losing too much weight, and you’re looking really skinny.’ And I just thought it was an attack, so I was like ‘F*** you! I’m not looking skinny, I’m looking amazing,’ you know? Instantly. </b><br />
<b>But now I look back at pictures, and I’m like, ‘S***, she was so right.’ But you instantly just think, I just felt attacked all the time.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “But that’s probably just your mental faculties at the time, as well - very emotional time for you, as well.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Oh, very. And then I look back at the pictures, and I’m like, ‘oh.’ I looked ill. Like, I looked iller [sic] after the cancer was going [sic], because I went to the extreme. So I was just like, ‘right, I’ve got to get rid of this myself.’ Like, ‘I’m in control, I have to.’ So I was just so strict. Like, I went on Google, found out…tomatoes, pineapple, like all this stuff…[trails off].</b><br />
<b>I went on a website, ‘doctorsaredangerous.com,’ and that took me through to Mark Simon. And Mark Simon was just, like, a scientist in America. He lost his wife to breast cancer eight years previous [sic], and so after that he saw the treatment of her – like, she went through the chemo and stuff – and he saw her be killed by chemo, basically. So he turned all of his efforts, and his scientific knowledge, onto finding a cure. And so as soon as I heard about him, I was like, ‘right, he’s the guy.’ And he was curing people through nutrition. </b><br />
<b>So I messaged him and he explained that it was like six grand [$6000] for his, like,</b><br />
<b>services…for a lifetime. So I was just like ‘well, I don’t have that.’ So at the time I was working up at the mines, and my partner at the time actually was amazing through this part; he went and went in all the crib rooms and…got some donations for me to jump out of a plane. So…I think it was New Zealand, Queenstown, and we were gonna jump out of a plane, and ended up raising like six grand and paid him the money.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Nice!” </b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah. And [Mark Simon] was just like ‘oh.’ Because he was just gonna treat me for free! And the reason why he charges six grand is…so he can give it for free to people that can’t afford it.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Like a scholarship sort of system, almost.”</b><br />
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I’ll just skip over the obvious fact that this “almost scholarship” doesn’t involve any actual scholarship, to point out the following: Candice claims that Simon’s fee was $6000, and Candice paid $6000. I don’t know how you twist that into a “scholarship system.” That would be like me paying my own way through university, only to have them tell me when I paid my fees in full that my education was actually free, and the money will go to other students poorer than I. As it happens, Candice gleefully suggests that Simon didn’t allocate the funds to other patients anyway, but funnelled it into his business:<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I said, ‘I don’t have the six grand now,’ but because I was working [up?] away, I said, ‘I can get it, just give me…a while, like, I’ll give it to you.’ </b><br />
<b>And he was just like, ‘no, I’ll send it [the supplements?] now.’ </b><br />
<b>So then I was like, ‘Do you know what? Let’s just raise the money, get more awareness,’ and just give, like, whatever we could. And it worked out so well, because we gave him the money, and he got a new website and all, all…sent me the stuff, and basically it was a high dose of vitamin K3 and sodium selenite.</b><br />
<b>So what I would do, is I would go on…because I was already like, I had quit everything myself. And then as soon as I went on his protocol, I just noticed such a difference. So it was like seven days of fruit only. Like pineapple, massive bromelain eats away at the protective protein layer of the cancer. And then Vitamin K3, like high greens [?], zaps the cancer and kinda kills it. So there’s a whole science behind it.”</b><br />
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Uh huh, okay. So what Candice appears to be saying here is that she cut the necessary things out of her diet herself (meat, dairy, negative thoughts, etc.), and then all Mark Simon had to do was supply the supplements, and the “protocol.” You don’t get a whole lot of bang for your buck, so it’s just as well it was absolutely free (except for the $6000 Candice offered as a charitable donation).<br />
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Just to be absolutely clear, the American Cancer Society states that “there are no available scientific studies that have looked at whether bromelain shrinks tumors.” Scott Gavura looks at bromelain in more detail at <a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/">www.sciencebasedmedicine.org</a> and concludes that “the data are not impressive.” He also points out that a discovery of this magnitude would be “Nobel-worthy.” If bromelain shrinks tumours, pharmaceutical companies would make a fortune on it. Throw in a helpful “protocol,” and they could probably make, like, I don’t know, six grand per patient maybe?<br />
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Meanwhile, Candice attempts to explain the regime, but it’s confusing:<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “And then…seven days after, so it’s like a a seven day/seven day cycle, so seven days of fruit only, and then I think days eight, nine, ten, I take in the morning sodium selenite and the vitamin K, two or three, and then the rest of the time I just eat what I want, but like vegan still, more nuts, avo[cado], just healthy.” </b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Sure. Make sure it’s healthy, yeah.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Everything, like, vegan; started meditating; yoga I was doing a lot. And I just done [sic]…it went in cycles…I think it got to like three or four cycles of doing this. And my partner and his family at the time, they’d laugh at me at that time, because I’d lock myself in the bathroom and meditate…so literally I’m sit [sic] on the toilet, and I would like, you know [swaying back and forth], get at one with the world. Obviously pants-up, you know, just purely with myself and the heavens. And I just mediated. And I could hear them all outside taking the p***, but I was like, ‘It’s all right, I know what I’m doing.’ And it worked! Like, it all calmed me…the meditation calmed me, and after three or four cycles…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “How long did that take, the three or four cycles?”</b><br />
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Adrian has obviously picked up on the fact that Candice isn’t being very clear about what a “cycle” is. All we really know is that she takes supplements, and mediates pants-up.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “So it’s three…so, basically it was…I just kept going ‘round one after the other. So I was like seven days of fruit, then the three days…of, like, the vitamins, the high dose…they’re like natural chemo, is basically what it is, and they’re…without killing all the cells, like this is just pure natural, it doesn’t do anything to your body, and then the rest you’re eating food, and then I done it again [sic]. So I done [sic] seven days of…so I done it [sic] one after the other.”</b><br />
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That doesn’t clear up anything, but at least we can agree on one thing: “natural chemo…doesn’t do anything to your body.”<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “And then once you’ve got rid of the cancer, you keep it as a maintenance. So now I do it…once every six months. But after three cycles, so that was like, say, six months after I got the scan, and they were like, ‘oh, it’s level 13, you know, you’re gonna die in five years, ra ra ra,’ …literally six months, I went in and got all my tests done with them.”</b><br />
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I’ll just jump in here and say I don’t personally know what she means by “level 13,” so hopefully one of our savvy commenters can explain that.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Because they…when I got diagnosed, when they gave me the five year sentence, I said, ‘Oh, is there anything I can do?’ And they were like, ‘look, come back in maybe…we can’t do anything now because you’ve had so much done to you, but come back in maybe six, maybe nine, nine more…maybe a year, come back in year, and we’ll give you some chemo.</b><br />
<b>And instantly alarm bells rung [sic]…because my best friend Jamie, he was 31, he died because of chemo. Like he found a lump in his testicles, they cut it out, it spread to his stomach, he went and had chemo. It weakened his immune system, and they put him into an induced coma, he had a heart attack, like…all because of the chemo, basically. It weakened him.</b><br />
<b>And then my little cousin Frankie, she was thirteen, she found like a little pea-sized tumour on her head, went through…really aggressive chemo over Christmas and all sorts of horrors, and yeah she passed away. I think it was the second lot of chemo...So as soon as they said it to me, I was already like ‘no.’ Like, ‘that’s how I know you’re gonna kill me.’ So that’s when I was just like ‘I definitely have to do this myself, now. Like there’s no…if I don’t do this in 6 to 9 months, then they’re gonna kill me.’”</b><br />
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These deaths must have been devastating, but Candice seems to be under the impression that her friends died as a result of their treatment, rather than that they died of cancer in <i>spite</i> of treatment. She also seems to be under the false impression that her own cancer had spread throughout her body.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “And then I was like, ‘if I don’t do it, then fine, like, maybe chemo. Do you know what I mean?”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah…you have to do it yourself, just try it yourself, at least.”</b><br />
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By this time, Candice’s nonsense has crossed the line from self-delusion to advice. She and Snary are disseminating information encouraging people with cancer to postpone medical treatment recommended by their physicians for up to a year. A year is long enough for a treatable cancer to become untreatable. A year is long enough for a cancer patient to die.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I have to…in this 6 to 9 months, if I make it worse, if it's more than [level] 13, then okay. Chemo, go, whatever. You know? But if I can get it down less, and I just had this…I was so passionate, and I just knew that…I just wanted to prove them wrong, because they…I just wanted…to mainly prove that chemo was to blame for all these horror stories. And I knew it was, but…I just wanted to make sure in my mind that…I weren’t [sic] going to go down that route.”</b><br />
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Of course, even if Candice had miraculously cured her own cancer with pineapple, it wouldn’t prove that her friend and her cousin died because of chemotherapy.<br />
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Suddenly, an unexpected twist:<br />
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<b>SNARY: “But it can help as well, chemo.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, but…it kills the good and the bad cells. Like, it does help…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “It just wipes away everything.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “So basically, if it does help, and you're like ‘oh yeah, I've had chemo, it's gone, blah blah blah,’ it's not forever. I've done so much research now. It's like, all them [sic] pharmaceutical drugs, they've got a lifespan. Like ten years and stuff. Because the cells are so tiny. So like when they cut me open, and they took the cancer out, like the tiny cells, kinda like the cancer cells, go all over to the body and they hide in places. So if they're not got [sic], they're gonna come out later with secondary cancers and *then* you're gonna be killed, basically...same with chemo...it's not good for the body, it weakens the immune system. And when it gets rid of it, if it does, it's definitely – well, lots of cases come back because of it. Unless you’re gonna keep up the healthy lifestyle.”</b><br />
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Now, I’ve read bowls of alphabet soup more coherent than this. But if I’m understanding this correctly, Candice is suggesting three things:<br />
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1. That surgery to remove cancer actually spreads cancer throughout the body, and that those cells scatter and conceal themselves in some kind of diabolical game of hide and seek.<br />
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2. That the “same” thing happens with chemo – that chemo spreads cancer cells throughout the body, and forces them underground, so to speak, only to have them pop up ten years later.<br />
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3. That chemo doesn’t actually destroy cancer, it just keeps it at bay for up to a decade, like a UN peacekeeping force.<br />
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This is pure, undiluted stupidity. And she’s not even done yet:<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “When I said to the doctors about, you know, they said, ‘you’re gonna die in five years,’ and I was like, ‘well what should I do then, in the 6 to 9 months, should I change my diet? What should I do?’ And they were like, ‘Diet’s got nothing to do with it.’”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY [outraged]: “WHAT?!?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “The thing that made me laugh is that the test that they do to test for cancer is a glucose-based syrup.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Really?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah. So it's like, it's a sugar. They feed it, to test where the cancer is, and that's what, like alarm bells went in my head again. So many things that happened along the way, errors, where my intelligence just kicked in. I was like, ‘hang on, if diet really has nothing to do with it, why are you giving me sugar to see where the cancer is?’”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, definitely!”</b><br />
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I’m beginning to think what Candice actually has is dysfunctional alarm bells. They seem to go off at odd times, for no good reason. I once had a similar problem with a smoke alarm.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “It's just, you know, all these things happened. And then yeah, so I proved them wrong. In six months I went and had the test done, and it went from level 13, to naught-point-seven [0.7]. So no large tumours, just small-scale cellular cancer left in me. And when I said to my nuclear oncologist, she was so shocked. And I was just like, ‘so, can I have it come from your mouth, that this is not the radiation that's done this, this is not anything you've done, this is what I've done, since leaving you?’</b><br />
<b>And she was just like, ‘look, I kinda hate to admit it, but it can't be...because...when we tested you, it was just level 13, now it's 0.7.’ She goes, ‘It's nothing to do with us. But we still want to mop up that 0.7 with some more radiation.’”</b><br />
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So it’s more radiation now? Not chemo?<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “So I was just like, ‘Are you f*****g sh*****g me?’ And that’s when I sat there and I said, ‘I want to be real with you now. I’ve had the worst and the best…last few months, and I know you're not a bad person…I know that you think giving me radiation is good for me. You really do, you think you're doing good.’”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “That's what she's been indoctrinated into.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah. And I said, ‘But you're not. You're not gonna give me broccoli. I love my broccoli. But you're not gonna give me broccoli, and say that cures cancer. You're just not gonna do that. Because you deal in radiation, but I'm here to tell you that radiation doesn't really work. Like, you didn't tell me that it ups my chance of leukemia by 70%, did you?’</b><br />
<b>And she was like…‘Why worry about one cancer when you're dealing with one now?’ That's what she said to me!</b><br />
<b>And I was like, ‘Because I don't want another cancer down there! Why can't I deal with all these cancers and wipe them out? [...] That didn’t make sense to me either, and I was just like, ‘Look, I'm not gonna take it […] I'm not going down your route anymore, and I don't want to come for any thyroid clinics, I don't want to do anything that you...’</b><br />
<b>And she instantly was just like, ‘you know that you could be killing yourself.’ Same, same thing!”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Even after the results are in, and she'd seen the results for herself?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Because it's 0.7! There's 0.7. And she goes, ‘This 0.7 could be hiding somewhere, and it could blow up.’”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Well, it could though, as well.”</b><br />
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You know, every so often - if you’re vewy, vewy quiet – you can catch Snary saying something reasonable. If only the same was true of Candice!<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, it could. But it's gonna blow up more if she gives me more radiation. Like, I'm gonna get more cancers if she radiates me again than if I'm gonna go and juice for six more months. Like, I don't get it! I don't even understand why they think it's okay. How do they justify it to themselves? Like do they get loads of free holidays, or, like, how does it work?”</b><br />
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Just a few minutes earlier, Snary and Candice agreed that chemo “can help,” and “the pharmaceutical industry…[does] have a benefit,” but now she’s saying conventional cancer treatment makes cancer worse, and that oncologists recommend radiation because the pharmaceutical companies ply them with free holidays. Snary jumps in to explain why Candice is so much smarter than actual phsyicians:<br />
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<b>SNARY: “I think again, like we just spoke about, it's that whole indoctrination. They're brought up like...”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah. They're not getting nutritional teachings.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, or even if they do, it’s probably not enough.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Like, six hours or something.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, something like that. But, you know…it's hard to even blame the doctors, I feel. Like if they've grown up thinking a certain way since they were kids and then they're teenagers and then they're going to university, they get indoctrinated into, like...”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “That’s true. It just annoys me […]. You just want to shake everyone. This is why I understood, like I appreciate, because she really was genuinely worried for me, you know? She was like, ‘Oh, well done, I’m so happy you’ve done this,’ you know. She didn’t like to admit it, which is what she said, but she was happy for me. She was like, ‘I’m really, you know, I’m pleased that it’s gone, but you’ve still got the 0.7! Let’s radiate this! Let’s mop it up!’ [hitting the table]. You know? I was just like, ‘Are you for f****** real?’”</b><br />
<b>I walked out of there, and I went home that day, and I was bawling my eyes out, because I [was] again doubting myself, even though I'd done all this myself, again I was like, ‘oh my god, am I gonna kill myself? [...] And I was just like, ‘I just am so confused.’ I’m like, ‘this 0.7, you know? I know I've got rid of that lot, but this 0.7, what if I can never get rid of that?’ …Then I was just like, ‘F***. I'm feeding the cancer right now.’ [ie. with the negativity].</b><br />
<b> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>And then I spoke to Mark Simon from NORI, which is like ‘Nutritional Oncology Research Institute’ in L.A., the guy who blew my mind with the science of, like, pineapple […]. He is amazing…I spoke to my mother-in-law, and we just…yeah, both kinda decided, ‘look, just keep doing what I’m doing,’ I mean, I was just like, ‘I have to. I can’t do any more radiation.’ And then yeah, that was it.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “And then you went back again?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, from then I just would go to a doctor’s…basically they gave me Thyroxine, and I went to a Don Tolman - you know Don Tolman?”</b><br />
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Yeah, I know Don Tolman. He’s a quack in a John Wayne costume who advocates something called “Self Care,” which ironically you can’t really do yourself. It’s based on an “ancient,” “sacred meal” called “Pulse” (singular, capital ‘p’). “Pulse” has apparently been “passed through the ancient mystery schools of learning,” and influenced by “Leonardo Da Vinci,” “Pythagoras,” and “Daniel from the Old Testament,” although not necessarily in that order.<br />
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If you’re thinking you’d have to consult ancient sources for this ancient health secret, and prepare the ancient, sacred meal yourself, I’ve got great news for you. You can actually purchase this mystical muesli directly from Don’s website, for only $28.00 per single-serve bag!<br />
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I can’t really do Don’s claims justice here, but I do want to point out that he claims that modern medicine has “sadly become an industry that thrives on the perpetuation of sickness and disease through false diagnostics, unnecessary treatments and surgeries - and huge corporate interests and agendas are driving that entire business globally.” Sound familiar?<br />
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<b>CANDICE: I went to one of [Tolman’s] things, and he basically said about Thyroxine being really bad, and I already knew it. Because I was getting really bad skin, like I had really bad acne, like everything was going wrong. And I found out that this one doctor in...Fremantle would give me natural thyroid tablets. So I went there, and ever since I've been seeing her, because she is a doctor in in the MD sense, but she's also...the only one who'll give me these natural ones, and she's all, she’s a balance. She's like, ‘Candice, don't be stupid.’ You know, she's just like ‘do this, do that.’ Because I told her I wanted to be a bodybuilder...and then I said that my trainer was gonna put me on meat five times a day, and then she was like ‘Candice, darling,’ she goes, ‘you had cancer. Don't you think you need greens, not meat?’”</b><br />
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Candice then discusses her plans to become a bodybuilder, and her discover of a raw vegetarian bodybuilder called Michelle Nazaroff. I’ll spare you the details.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Now I'm just attracting people…like you, do you know what I mean?”</b><br />
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Yeah, he knows what she means. Although this ‘law of attraction’ hypothesis doesn’t explain how she attracted detractors, like Violet.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I'm attracting amazing people, like, that just...everybody resonates with me now, and I'm my own health doctor. I'm my own warrior...I listen to myself more, I'm mediating more...I'm more in control now, and I don't listen to that fear. See, the second time they wanted to give me radiation, I was scared again, and I look back at that and I'm like, ‘why did I get that scared again, when I'd...got rid of so much of the cancer myself?’...But it is because you're with these authoritarian people, you know, who are educated, they know their s***, apparently. Like, they are good at broken bones and stuff like that, you know? They are good at things like that. But when it comes to cancer and...diseases like that...to be honest, I just think it's a money-making industry, like, cancer is a multi-trillion dollar industry. So, to me, it's like they don't want a cure. Like opening somebody up, cutting 'em, giving oxygen to the cancer and spreading it, it's not the way.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “It's really archaic. It seems archaic.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “It's barbaric...it's not right. And I really wanna do as much as I can with the time that I have left to change it.”</b><br />
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I'm not sure how Mark Simon's alleged six thousand dollar fee fits into this worldview, or Don Tolman’s sacred muesli empire, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of actual physicians who volunteer their services to patients in developing countries, or the countless millions who have been cured of cancer with conventional medicine. But what’s interesting here is that Candice is about to fill us in on her future plans – grand, weird, lucrative plans. She explains her newfound psychic ability, the health retreat she’s coordinating on the party island of Ibiza, and a TV series she plans to make about that retreat.<br />
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Whatever Candice says in defence of her marketing in recent days (eg. she can’t prevent errors in print media articles, she never said pineapples cured her cancer, she never said she had liver cancer, etc.), her views about the supposed dangers of conventional medicine and the efficacy of alternative medicine in treating cancer are all recorded here, and she plainly delineates her intentions to parlay those views into a lucrative brand.<br />
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I know I told you I could break this interview into three parts, but I was mistaken. I hadn’t finished reviewing the material at that time, and I made an estimate that, in hindsight, was ill-informed. This podcast review is going to take up five blog posts. Before I knew it, my estimate was in print, and impossible to retract. I sincerely apologise to anyone who may have been misled by that statement. I had the best of intentions.<br />
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(See, Candice? That wasn’t so hard).<br />
<br />Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com74tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-17027622670154846012015-04-09T16:18:00.003-05:002015-04-09T16:24:30.678-05:00Candice on Cancer, Part II [Written by reader Ella as a guest post].<br />
Candice on Cancer, Part 2.<br />
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Things have a blown up somewhat over at Facebook, which reminds me why I so rarely go there. Candice is very angry that Violet and other sense-talking people are demanding clarification of the more outlandish aspects of her story, and Candice’s supporters are equally crabby. In fact, Candice has alleged that we are all different iterations of Violet, or a small army of humanoids, all called Violet.<br />
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I’m compelled to point out that Candice is the one who chose to make her story public. When you publish something, it’s fair game. I mean, I don’t mind if Candice wants to claim that she lives in a pineapple under the sea. But if she wants to claim that pineapples shrink cancerous tumours, and to pitch that claim to the public with a falsified personal story, then she needs to be prepared for a detoxifying dose of reason.<br />
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<b>Candice on Cancer, Part 2: “There’s no, ‘here you go, here’s some broccoli.’”</b><br />
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Picking up where we left off yesterday, Candice had visited a <b>“laboratory in Fremantle”</b> that deals in <b>“natural cancer cures.”</b> but she didn’t follow through with it. She says:<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I ended up being scared into the surgery…I went to two different surgeons, and they both said the same thing: total thyroidectomy, take all the lymph nodes out, then radiation, possible chemo, blah blah blah. When I went in there and I said to them ‘look, I want to do it naturally,’ he was just like ‘oh, okay, yeah. If you do it naturally, if you leave it for another year and it takes over, you might lose your voice, you know, it will probably eat at your vocal cords’ – really scare tactics – and he was like ‘and then you’ll probably die.’ Like, literally.”</b><br />
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Yes, you read that correctly. Candice’s oncologist is deploying “scare tactics,” in the same way that my dentist uses scare tactics when she tells me my teeth will probably decay if I don’t brush them, or my bungee instructor tells me that jumping off a bridge without a rope would be less fun than it sounds.<br />
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<b>CANDICE:</b> <b>“So I just sat there sh*****g myself thinking ‘okay, why is my head saying that I can do this without this mass corporation? Why am I thinking that I can? Maybe I’m wrong.’ So I just started doubting myself, questioning myself […]. And you’ve got these doctors and surgeons in high-up places who ‘know their s**t’ [finger quotes] telling you that you’re going to kill yourself if you don’t do it their way. And they did say that, you know. It was THAT intense. Like ‘if you go that way, you’ll probably kill yourself.’”</b><br />
<b>[…] I was just like, ‘I don’t want to kill myself, okay I’ll go your way.’ […] And then, 90% survival rate, they gave me, from doing it their way. They were like, ‘yeah, high chances, we’ll just take out the thyroid, you might not even need radiation, we’ll see how you go.’”</b><br />
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Note that she is now saying the doctors have given her <b>“high chances”</b> of recovery and a <b>“90% survival rate.”</b> Just moments earlier, she told us that when this mysterious doctor - let’s call him “Doctor Pilbara” - delivered her initial diagnosis, she was told <b>“my chances of survival are very slim.”</b> Presumably what she means is that <i>without treatment</i> her chances are slim.<br />
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<b>SNARY: “But they’d pretty much written you off if you decided to go the natural route.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah…because it’s…all over my neck, they say basically it’s just going to keep growing and take over. I was like ‘there must be something more you can do.’ […] Straight away you are given an oncologist, [put] into their system; a surgeon, radiologist…like, there’s no ‘here you go, here’s some broccoli,’ you know, ‘that helps with cancer.’ There’s none of that.”</b><br />
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I’m trying really hard not to keep interjecting, because I think Candice’s spectacular stupidity speaks for itself. But I can’t let this one slide. Candice is complaining that when diagnosed with a serious disease she was referred to three relevant specialists very quickly, and that those specialists did not offer her broccoli. Now, I’m not based in Perth, but I am Australian. Where I live, medical specialists have waiting lists and broccoli does not. In fact, any individual of modest means can waltz into any supermarket and purchase broccoli over the counter, no questions asked. So I’m not sure why Candice feels she needs medical specialists to prescribe the…you know what? You get the picture. Let’s move on.<br />
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<b>SNARY: “So they don’t look at it from more [of] a holistic manner, it’s just surgery, treatment…”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE:</b> <b>“Yeah, it’s just ‘take it out,’ it’s just chop and burn, it’s like ‘cut it out, burn it, off you go. You can carry on drinking wine, you can carry on eating your meat, it’s fine.’ [That’s] exactly what they say. </b><br />
<b>So when I had it chopped out, I had a horrific experience in the hospital. The surgeon, who is like the best surgeon in Perth, done over 10,000 thyroidectomies, in error, cut out my parathyroids. </b><br />
<b>So I literally am in hospital, and I started feeling really ill…all of sudden my body locked up. So my hands just went like *this* [makes clawing motions], I couldn’t move, like literally screaming. The nurse has come in, and [I] was like ‘I’m dying, I’m dying.’ I felt like I was dying, because everything was just seizing. I was like ‘I’m dying, I’m dying.’ I could just feel, like, a tear, trickle down my face, like literally. And I don’t even know, I just, like, my heart, *BOOM,* *BOOM,* *BOOM!* </b><br />
<b>And the nurse come [sic] in, and I said…‘I’m dying, I’m dying.’ </b><br />
<b>And she was just like ‘no, you’re not.’ </b><br />
<b>And I was like, ‘what’s wrong with me then?’ </b><br />
<b>And she was just like, ‘I don’t know, love.’ [Roars with laughter]. </b><br />
<b>And I’m like, ‘Well then how do you know I’m not dying, [for] f***’s sake?’ </b><br />
<b>And then an older lady…she [the first nurse]must have been like a trainee. And then an older lady came in, and she was just like, ‘okay, her calcium levels are low, we just checked her bloods, it’s…below 180, la la la la la,’ and then they injected me and put some calcium in my mouth, and then I was just…trying to drink it. And then they started un-prising [sic] my hands apart, and like easing my muscles, and then they found out that, yeah, all my parathyroids had been taken out in error in the surgery. Which is, there’s a lot of cancer there, fine. But you don’t expect that to happen from a top surgeon. So, forever I would have to take calcium tablets as well as thyroid replacement tablets.”</b><br />
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This is baffling. Is she saying there “WAS a lot of cancer” in the parathyroids? Or is she saying that “IF there was a lot of cancer in the parathyroids it would have been acceptable to remove them?” Wouldn’t she have had to take thyroid supplements anyway after a thyroidectomy? At the very beginning of the podcast, Candice says <b>“obviously I'm on replacement thyroid hormones,”</b> but now she seems to be implying that she only has to take them because of the surgeon’s error.<br />
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<b>SNARY: “Was there any benefit at all of taking the parathyroid out?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE:</b> <b>“No, no, no, he just done it [sic]…no, he stuffed up. It was an error. Like an absolute error to do that, he shouldn’t have taken it out. […] The whole situation was awful in the hospital…the coffee lady comes ‘round with two sugars and stuff like that, you’ve got fried food…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY [Enraged]: “NO S***!”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE:</b> <b>“They are keeping everybody, like, ill.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “F***.”</b><br />
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Yeah. Candice has alleged that hospitals are “keeping everybody, like, ill.” If true, this would be a massive, global conspiracy. In fact that concept of conspiracy is at the heart of the “wellness” paradigm.<br />
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Candice goes on to complain at length about hospital food. Adrian Snary seems to be more upset about that than the accusations of malpractice Candice has just leveled at the <b>“best surgeon in Perth.”</b><br />
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I won’t include the whole hospital rant, because what we’re particularly interested in is how she arrived at her current understanding of her own prognosis, and why she claims to have cured her cancer herself.<br />
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<b>SNARY: “Which hospital were you at?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I was at [Sir] Charles Gairdner [Hospital, in Western Australia]. The whole situation there was just not good […]. I was reading this book about doing it the natural way, because…even though I’ve done it their way, I’m still gonna, like, see what I can do myself […]. The whole hospital situation was s***.”</b><br />
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Now this is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside a banana skin. If Candice has already had surgery and radiation to treat the cancer, what exactly is it that she is planning to “do herself?” I’m not convinced Candice even knows the answer to this question, as she seems to be unclear on virtually every aspect of her diagnosis, treatment and recovery.<br />
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<b>SNARY: “How long were you in hospital for?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE:</b> <b>“I was in hospital for a few weeks […]. I came out of surgery with this massive scar on my neck…swollen…given crap food, just constantly pumped with morphine, and…I was out of it, and then…I just felt so depressed, and I’ve never felt that depressed in my life. But I kept getting all these pharmaceuticals thrown at me. Now I’m looking back, it’s like ‘no wonder I was fucking depressed.’ I was pumped with so much crap.” </b><br />
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I’d be interested to know how she would have fared without morphine and whatever other “pharmaceuticals” were “thrown at her.”<br />
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<b>SNARY: “Just crap, yeah. I mean, having said that, I think we should make the point – I mean, I’m not into the pharmaceutical industry and that whole thing, but we have to admit, they do have a benefit.”</b><br />
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:D<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Oh, they do, they do.”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Like, there are some great points to it. It’s just the misuse of it.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah, yeah yeah. They do. I just…like, I’m not putting down the health industry or whatever, or the sickness industry…</b>”<br />
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*facepalm*<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “…I just feel like it’s a bit twisted, what’s going on. Like, they’re keeping people ill in hospitals with the food […].” </b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “Yeah, ‘just give me some broccoli, please!’”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Luckily, I was already pretty healthy. Like, I didn’t do the carbs and all that. I didn’t really give in to the coffees and all that.”</b><br />
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This is interesting, because earlier in the podcast Candice said that prior to her cancer diagnosis:<b> “I didn't treat my body [well] growing up…it was like drink, drugs, partying...I was damaging my system from about 13… partying, having fun.” She adds that as recently as the honeymoon immediately preceding diagnosis, “we [had] meats, drink, cheeky cigarettes here and there. All brilliant stuff for, like, breeding disease.”</b> She’s full of contradictions.<br />
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One of my favourite parts is coming up. Candice tells Snary that the hospital offered her <b>“brown bread” </b>and a <b>“fried pancake with [beef] mince in.”</b> That is just too much for Adrian Snary to handle.<br />
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<b>SNARY: “That is f****d, Candice.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “I’ll tell you another f****d story that’s even more f****d than that. So when I was in radiation, so anyway I had the surgery and then they booked me in for radiation, so that was gonna mop up all the rest, so they got the most out and…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “How long after you had the surgery did they start that?”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “So that was October. So September…um, no, October I had the surgery and then December I had the radiation.”</b><br />
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Candice describes the radiation at length here. I’ll skip most of it, because it all sounds pretty routine. What is interesting, though, is that <u>she seems to have interpreted the procedure itself as a personal insult.</u> She does that a lot.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “[I’m] Sitting in there, and then they come in, there’s this woman in a space suit. Like, no s***. It’s a massive, like tripled-her-size space suit. And like she’s got this capsule, it’s like something out of a movie…and then she’s got these tweezers, and then she’s talking you through it, and she’s like, ‘okay, Candice, I’m gonna take the tablet.’ Like, ‘you take it.’ Like literally she’s covered, and I’m just standing there like *me,* like…”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “You’ve got an alien standing in front of you.”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Yeah! I was just like, ‘what is going on?’ And she’s got this capsule, and she said, ‘I’m going to open it, I want you to take it, and then drink some water.’ So she passed me this capsule, and I’m just like ‘oh my god, this is like…I didn’t feel anything, I couldn’t see any radiation, you know what I mean?”</b><br />
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No, Candice. We don’t know what you mean. In fact I personally would be more worried if you could see the radiation. I can certainly imagine how Twilight-Zoney the whole radiation process is. But I can’t relate to Candice’s sense of outrage that anyone would submit her to the procedure in the first place. She is clearly under the impression that was unnecessary, and unnecessarily weird. As though the space suit is a superfluous and ridiculous detail meant to alienate the patient.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “She just looked f****** weird, and scared me, and I was like, ‘why are you that protected, and I’m not.’ And then I took the tablet, drunk [sic] the water, and then she stood back, and she went *WOO WOO WOO* with this [waves an invisible radiation monitor].”</b><br />
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<b>SNARY: “WHOOAAH!”</b><br />
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<b>CANDICE: “No s***! She scanned me. Then she’s like, ‘so you are reading blah blah blah,’ like high numbers of radiation. She goes, ‘just keep drinking water, pass it through your system, and then you can be let out when it’s at this number.’”</b><br />
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After a long discussion about hospital food, things get interesting. This is where Candice explains how she arrived at the conclusion that she only has five years to live.<br />
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<b>CANDICE: “Then I had to go into a…it was like a special cancer, kind of, outhouse [does she mean “outpatient” facility?] where you just…it’s a stop-gap, so you don’t go into normal society, because you’re still radioactive. So you’re not allowed to…sit on toilets, and la la la, like, without passing the radiation through, or on buses. So I just stayed there for a week […]. </b><br />
<b>The Monday after [radiation] I went in for a scan…and my doctor wasn’t there, and the guy that was there, he was all, ‘oh I think I’d rather your doctor gave you the news.’ </b><br />
<b>And I was like ‘No, I don’t want to wait, she’s on holiday. Can you give me the news?’ </b><br />
<b>And he was just like, ‘are you sure?’ </b><br />
<b>And…I was just like…‘Tell me. Like just tell me.’ </b><br />
<b>And he was just like ‘I’m really sorry to tell you this… the cancer has spread. It’s now gone into your right lung, it’s gone more down your chest lymph nodes, it’s in the back of your neck – the lymph nodes that weren’t affected – I had five tumours on my liver…they were benign, but they were still there…and he said basically, ‘you’re looking at like five years left to live.’ </b><br />
<b>And I was [sic] just looked at him, and I was just like…instantly, I was like, ‘how do you know five years? Instantly, I was like ‘where do you get five years from?’”</b><br />
<b>[He said]: ‘Oh, just, you know, because cases, and, you know, we’ve seen this happen before, statistics, la la la. It’s about five years, you know, give or take.’ </b><br />
<b>I was like, ‘oh, give or take.’ I couldn’t believe it.”</b><br />
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They were benign, but they were still there. What does that mean? Why is she under the impression that the benign tumours in her liver had anything to do with the malignancy in her thyroid? Were the “precancerous cells” in her right lung actually due to the thyroid cancer metastasizing? Or could they have been attributable to the smoking habit she repeatedly references in this interview? Who was this “guy” that supposedly told her she had five years to live? Isn’t this the second time someone standing in for her actual doctor has broken the news of a death sentence to her?<br />
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Well, fortunately a “certified nutritionist” is about to step in and clear everything up for her, literally. For a small fee of mere thousands. More tomorrow.<br />
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FYI, in the interests of transparency, please note that I do not actually have a bungee instructor. And if I ever do bungee-jump, it will be on my own terms, with my own rope, off whatever bridge or tall building I choose. Nobody tells ME how to prevent my own death.<br />
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">I’ve been wading through an interminable interview
with Candice-Marie Fox on something called “The Statera Podcast” on YouTube. It
goes for one-and-a-half hours, but it felt more like one-and-a-half years. The
interviewer is a guy called Adrian Snary, who – despite a negligible following
– seems convinced that he’s quietly helping usher in the Age of Aquarius. Or
something. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">A three-minute clip from this podcast was
featured in the Daily Mail’s recent write-up of Candice’s bizarre story, and
subsequently shared by Candice on her “healthycandy.me” Facebook page. I’ve
painstakingly transcribed some generous chunks of this drivel for you, because
– while it is mind-numbingly vacuous stuff – I think it helps to document it,
for the same reasons that Violet has been preserving deleted comments from
Candice’s Facebook page. Candice’s own comments reveal the gaping errors in her
own story – a story upon which she hopes to found at least one lucrative
business.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">I’m hoping to break this up into three parts over
as many days, if I don’t die of exasperation in the meantime. I’m not including
the whole transcript, because it’s quite a slog. But I’ve preserved the
juiciest bits for posterity. I’ve bleeped the swearing (for such “positive”
people, they sure use a lot of expletives) and edited out approximately 75% of
instances of the word “like,” which Candice uses, like, a lot. Small omissions
are indicated by ellipses, and larger blocks of text by ellipses in square
brackets. I don’t want to be accused of editing this ridiculous interview to
make it sound more ridiculous than it already does.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">You will find this interesting. You’ll laugh. You’ll
weep. You’ll roll your eyes - even the third eye, the one you didn’t know you
had. I may be accused of being negative, but I personally feel that a generous
dose of sarcasm is pretty healthy when it comes to alternative medicine. So
grab a coffee, put too much sugar in it, and enjoy.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Candice
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<b>“I didn't treat my body [well] growing up. So, coming from...near London...it
was like drink, drugs, partying; just...I started very young, doing all the
naughty things [...]. It was just a party scene, and I was damaging my system
from about 13…[to] 18+ [years old], partying, having fun.”</b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b>“Well, I was actually on my honeymoon at the time, and we were drinking
heavily, and we weren't really suited in the first place. And we were arguing
and drinking. So a lot of built-up anger and [inaudible]...during our
honeymoon. Oh, it was because we went on a 'Topdeck Tour,' and we were drinking
a lot, and I was never very good with drink. And he would always try and put me
in my place...and just try and curb me from the drinking, and I was always like
'don't you tell me what to do,' you know? <o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><b>We were just battling against each other, and I was just in a
bad place and we just did not gel very well. So all that built up, as well as
travelling [to] Italy and all over the world. Like, we [had] meats, drink,
cheeky cigarettes here and there. All brilliant stuff for, like, breeding
disease. </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><b>I started getting a...well, I had a tiny little lump just
above my left collarbone, and then by the end of the honeymoon we went back up
to Karratha [Western Australia] where we were working. It was huge [pointing to
her collarbone], and it had fixated. So it was like a tiny little lump, and it
was moving at first, and I went back home to England when we were on our
honeymoon [visiting?] the family and stuff...and basically my mum's a nurse,
and she was like 'no, no don't worry, it's probably just because you've been
ill, it's probably just the swollen glands.' So I was like 'okay, sweet.' Like,
you know, 'fine.' <o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><b>[We] carried on, we obviously went travelling, we were
arguing and I was drinking a lot and la la la. And then, yeah, when I got back
to Karratha and I found it was massive, I was like 'no.' It wasn't hurting, but
I was just like, 'this isn't right.' Like, 'it's not going down.' </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><b>It did feel like a gland - you know when…your glands swell
when you're ill. It felt like that but it was huge, here [gesturing at
collarbone]. So then I went to the hospital, which was the local hospital
there, and they were just like 'oh, we don't deal with any of that here. You
need to go to your doctor.' And I was like, 'Love, this is Karratha. There's
like a month wait. I need to see someone now. This has been growing the past
few months that I've been travelling Europe. It's grown, and something's not
right.' And she was like, 'Does it hurt?' And I was like, 'yeah, I'm in so much
pain.' Because I just thought, ‘I have to fib, otherwise I’m not gonna get
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nurse kindly admitted Candice and gave her an ultrasound. Candice suggests she
could tell from the expressions of the “ultrasound guys” that something was up.
They told her, <b>“We can’t actually explain any information to you. What we’ll do
is we’ll send you a letter once we’ve gone through this properly.” </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b>“And then I got a letter back saying that they wanted me to come in for a
biopsy…they said basically that it had all these lumps in my neck [gesturing
towards front of neck]; they said they were all covered. And they all had their
own blood vessels, so they were all feeding. And if I had’ve [sic] known
anything about cancer at that time, I would have known it was cancer. Because,
you know, it feeds…if it’s feeding the tumour, it would have its own blood
vessels. But I didn’t, I was just like ‘well what the hell are these lumps
doing all over my neck?’ I felt fine, I wasn’t ill or anything, nothing was
hurting. I just had this lump miraculously appear.”</b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">And
now we’re up the treatment phase:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b>“Stupidly – I didn’t know it at the time – I went and got the lump cut out. And
it came back as being papillary thyroid carcinoma, which is thyroid cancer. So
then they done [sic] a needle biopsy in the other side just to make sure that
all the lumps had it [cancer], and they did. And then as soon as that happened
I got put into the system. It was like, ‘Okay, you’ve got cancer, here’s the
surgeon’s letter. Go and see the surgeon.’ Like that’s it, you’re kinda
funneled through. It’s surgery, radiation, chemo, straight away.”</b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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not clear on whether getting the “lump cut out” refers to a biopsy or a
lumpectomy that took place prior to the cancer diagnosis. If that is the case,
Candice must have had surgery twice – once to remove the first lump, and a
second time to remove the lumps “in the other side.” However, she doesn’t
mention a hospital stay relating to the first surgery, if that’s what it was.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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then asks,<i> </i>“So what were you feeling at that time, when you found out…what’s
going to have to happen, and what you were going to have to do? How…what was
your reaction to it?”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE:
<b>“As soon as…because, I went into the hospital, and they…it took ages for them
to tell me about the lump. So I walk back in there, about two/three weeks
later, because I really wanted to know. And they were like, ‘Oh, the doctor’s
on holiday, blah blah blah blah,’ and I was like, ‘No, I need to know now.’ So
then a girl that I knew, her boyfriend was a doctor there, so he saw me, you
know, in a bit of a panic. And he came over and he was, ‘are you okay?’ And
I…explained the situation, and I was like ‘I really need to know. What’s going
on, what do I need to do.’ Like, ‘why is it taking weeks?’ And then he pulled
me into a room and he said, ‘okay, I’ll go and find out.’ </b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><b>So he went off and found my records, come back [sic] and he
was like, ‘I’m really sorry to tell you, but it’s papillary thyroid carcinoma.’
He goes…you know, my chances of survival are very slim, because it’s like all
over, and I was just like, ‘oh my god.’ […]. Then my husband at the time, he
came in and he heard everything the doctor said, and he didn’t really know what
to say or do, so he just kinda sat there. I just was a mess […] and then I just
went back to my house, and just spoke to my friends and family.”</b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Who
this doctor was, what he specialised in, and why he broke the news to her that
she had cancer without actually discussing treatment with her, is not clear.
Candice goes home, presumably uninformed, and decides for herself how she plans
to treat the cancer:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE:<i>
</i><b>“I instantly wanted to do it naturally…I was just like ‘I don’t want to be cut
open,’ because they were gonna cut me like here [gesturing across collarbone],
and I was just like ‘oh my god.’ The vain part of me was like, ‘I need to still
do my modelling! I need to do *this* and *this!* I can’t be cut open!’…I was
just like, ‘if we can heal a broken bone, I’m pretty sure we can get rid of
some cells.’”</b><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">I
completely sympathise with the “vain part” here. I think this is a completely
normal reaction for a young woman, especially a model. But the broken bone
analogy is where the interview really starts to nosedive, if it hasn’t already.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE:
<i>“</i><b>So that was my notion, that was my thinking. So I rung [sic] around all my
family and friends back home. My grandad was just like, ‘Do whatever you
think.’ My Dad was like, ‘Do whatever you think, but probably best to go with
the doctors,’ and, you know, ‘they know what’s best.’ Everyone was kinda
steering towards that. My partner and his family, they really thought I was
crazy if I was going to do the natural route. Because that’s what everybody
knows, you know? All my family, the family that I was surrounded with here,
that’s all they knew. They just thought they were helping me.”<o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">What
comes out again and again is that central to Candice’s rejection of
conventional medicine is the conviction that she intuitively knows more than
the “indoctrinated” masses around her. She goes on:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">CANDICE:
<b>“Obviously it’s not the right decision [having the surgery and radiation],
because it just didn’t work, but at the time they thought I was crazy for
thinking I could do it on my own. <o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><b> My partner’s mum, though; she knew…I
can’t remember their names…‘Twin Labs,’ or some laboratory in Fremantle, and
they deal with…natural cancer cures. And she actually took me there, and we
looked into natural methods and stuff.”<o:p></o:p></b></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Candice
might just be talking about ‘Power Labs,’ a business in Fremantle that markets
herbal remedies and supplements. Or she might be talking about ‘Resort to
Health,’ a “clinic” in Fremantle run by Dr William Barnes, who advocates
“non-toxic” treatments for cancer. Barnes had some involvement in the notorious
case of Penelope Dingle, a young woman who died a slow, agonising death after opting
to treat her cancer naturally. Dingle’s weight dropped to 35kg before she died
of a bowel obstruction. I watched a feature about this case on current affairs
program “Australian Story” some years ago, and I’ll never forget the graphic
description of her death. Those episodes, including transcripts, are available
here:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU"><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/austory/specials/desperateremedies/default.htm"><span style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">http://www.abc.net.au/austory/specials/desperateremedies/default.htm</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU"><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/austory/specials/desperateremediestwo/default.htm"><span style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">http://www.abc.net.au/austory/specials/desperateremediestwo/default.htm</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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the coroner’s report on Dingle’s death is available (in PDF form) here:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU"><a href="http://www.homeowatch.org/news/dingle_finding.pdf"><span style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">http://www.homeowatch.org/news/dingle_finding.pdf</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Whether
Candice was talking about ‘Resort to Health’ or not I don’t know. But either
way, this is a good note to finish on for today. Because as comical as Candice sometimes
seems, with her pineapples and her pencilled-on brows and her ditsy
peace-love-dope shtick, it’s worth remembering why Violet started this blog:
because alternative medicine kills. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-AU" style="font-family: "Garamond",serif; font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%;">Tomorrow,
more on Candice’s treatment. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com300tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-57410509325723379952015-04-05T18:20:00.000-05:002015-04-07T21:49:38.288-05:00Candice-Marie Fox 2011-2012 Cancer Facebook Posts<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.3800000000000001; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This was sent to me by a reader. He or she also claims that there were more posts where she goes back for more conventional treatment which have since been deleted. I do not know if this is the extent of her cancer facebook posts; this was just what the reader sent me. The comments under the pictures are theirs and not mine. In these I can see no mention of Stage IV cancer, no mention of cancer of the liver, no mention of turning down chemotherapy, and no mention of getting only five years to live two months after her initial treatment. Anyway, Candice-Marie Fox is more than welcome to offer up proof of all those things, but so far I have been unable to find it. Demand the truth.</span></div>
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Sorry so long, and yes, not all of these have been deleted (yet). These are from this facebook page <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Healthycandyme/298350183626122">https://www.facebook.com/pages/Healthycandyme/298350183626122</a>. All Candice-Marie Fox had to do was tell the truth and fix the lies out there about her cancer. Instead, she deleted posts and banned me from commenting on her pages. Again, I ask what she found so offensive about these demands for the truth. Surely if her story or getting five years to live after her cancer spread to her liver, and of healing it using pineapple juice were totally true, then she would immediately post irrefutable proof. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-57168070010451305152015-04-03T21:37:00.001-05:002015-04-03T21:38:15.898-05:00Some More Candice-Marie Fox Deleted Facebook Posts<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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These are from this facebook page. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cre8ivicandi" target="_blank"> https://www.facebook.com/cre8ivicandi</a> A lot has been deleted so these are no longer available to view there. I made screenshots of everything I saw there which related to her cancer. Violethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06774200172248356019noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9220010756067874210.post-15910643629259178012015-04-02T12:22:00.000-05:002015-04-14T15:04:20.740-05:00An Open Letter To Candice-Marie FoxDear Candice-Marie Fox,<br />
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First let me tell you how glad I am that you corrected some lies about your story, namely that the "cancer" in your liver was actually a benign tumor and that Mark Simon is not really an oncologist. I wanted to clarify that I believe you that you had thyroid cancer at one point. Since you admitted that your thyroid cancer was successfully treated using reality-based medicine, I take no issue with that part of your story. However, there are still some things that need to be made clear. Did you really get a prognosis of five years to live after your thyroid cancer was successfully treated? Please either answer yes or no. If yes, then please post irrefutable proof. Do you have pre-cancerous cells in your lungs and in the back of your neck that were treated using a pineapple protocol? If yes, please post irrefutable proof. These were all things that were posted in various media articles about you. I am going to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt that the media simply got your story wrong or misquoted you. <b>After all, only a person of extremely low character would ever be so unethical as to lie about having cured terminal cancer using pineapples (and other stuff, I know). </b> So if these are not true, then you would be very unethical and dishonest to not contact these news sites and make sure that the correct version of what happened to you is put out there. <br />
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Unless you provide irrefutable proof that you cured malignant cancer using pinapples, then I must insist that you put up a permanent and conspicuous disclaimer on both your facebook page and your website which clarifies what is and is not true about your cancer and your treatment. Your current "disclaimer" is buried in your facebook page under a link to a website. There must be a clarification which is permanent and obvious to any person who visits your facebook page or your website. If you do not do this, then this blog post will follow your business around the internet until you do so. I know that the quintessential reaction from "wellness" bloggers like you is that I am "bullying" you. I am not bullying you; I am merely requesting that you are transparent about something as serious as being able to cure cancer using nutritional means. The truth is not negative or mean or bullying in any way whatsoever. If telling the truth prevents white light from reaching your chakras, then that is your problem and the people suffering from cancer should not have to pay the price for it. On your facebook page and in the media you use a lot of words like "compassion", "understanding", "positivity", "finding your truth", etc. Since that is what you are about, I am sure that you can understand where I am coming from. My demand for a truthful accounting of your cancer story is 100% motivated by my compassion for people who have cancer. It is not motivated by "picking on you" or anything else that "wellness" bloggers say in order to avoid being completely transparent and truthful. <br />
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If you are the decent person you present yourself to be, then I am sure that I will immediately see either an express point-by-point clarification of any falsehood about you, or irrefutable proof of your claims. One final time: <b>I am only asking for the truth, and there is absolutely nothing negative about the truth. </b><br />
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Thanks,<br />
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